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Author Topic: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.  (Read 67915 times)

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #285 on: February 02, 2023, 11:06:48 AM »
As I said, denail was the wrong word because that made it look like I was talking about a statement from the club(s) or player, I mean that some of the trasnfer experts in the press would've reported it as bullshit if they had any hint that it hadn't happened. Even those people don't comment on every story but Villa breaking our transfer record to sign one of the best young players in Spain is big enough for them to comment on.

It definitely would be big enough for them to comment on. Which makes you wonder, if it happened and they knew that it happened, why they didn't?

Romano did, he said a few days ago that it's more likely to happen in the summer, that was reported pretty widely at the time.

He said "it's true they have an interest".

That's not the same as the claim that we offered Bilbao enough money to meet his buy-out clause. Unless there are other quotes to the above?

I think it was also in the context of a live video Q&A, and (while I appreciate I'm the one speculating now) it strikes me as the sort of answer you might give if you'd never heard the words Aston Villa and Nico Williams in the same sentence before but you need to hedge your bets in case it turns out that there is something in it.

If he knew that we'd made an acceptable bid, that would have been his opportunity to say "yes, Villa offered enough money to buy him but he didn't want to join them". But he decided not to, for some reason.
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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #286 on: February 02, 2023, 11:08:12 AM »
Let me try this again, people like John Percy and Fabrizio Romano have made their reputations on being right about stuff like this. If there was nothing to the idea that we had a bid accepted but the player said no people like that would report it because it would reinforce the idea that they're the people worth listening to and putting the boot in on the sources that reported it.

I freely admit I might be wrong but for this specific story I think it's far more likely to be real than not. Whereas for all the people you've listed the stories fit more neatly into general speculation.

I can't see that either of them have mentioned him at all, where did you see that they did?

I haven't seen anything from Percy (I just picked him as another option). Romano commented on it in a livestream (on Monday I think). There's plenty of stories in the normal rumour papers running the exact quote, e.g. https://www.givemesport.com/88110952-aston-villa-fabrizio-romano-nico-williams-athletic-bilbao-transfer-news-villa-park

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #287 on: February 02, 2023, 11:21:36 AM »
Aren't Givemesport just another load of Football Insider type bullshit merchants? Romano usually puts absolutely everything he says on his Twitter, and hasn't mentioned Williams once. Nor has Percy, so I honestly don't think there was anything remotely concrete whatsoever.

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #288 on: February 02, 2023, 11:25:56 AM »
Aren't Givemesport just another load of Football Insider type bullshit merchants? Romano usually puts absolutely everything he says on his Twitter, and hasn't mentioned Williams once. Nor has Percy, so I honestly don't think there was anything remotely concrete whatsoever.

quoted him though, even the bullshit merchants don't fake quotes.

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #289 on: February 02, 2023, 11:30:22 AM »
“The expectation of those close to Nico Williams is for the player to leave, possibly in the summer. So at the moment, the situation is still complicated.”

Thats the quote in that article.

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #290 on: February 02, 2023, 11:35:16 AM »
“The expectation of those close to Nico Williams is for the player to leave, possibly in the summer. So at the moment, the situation is still complicated.”

Thats the quote in that article.

I honestly don't care enough to carry on with this, I made a bit of a throwaway comment and have had 3 of you grilling me over it for nearly 4 hours. I think if it was completely made up that we were so close to a very big signing we'd know by now, you don't have to agree but we're just gonig in circles now.

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #291 on: February 02, 2023, 11:36:50 AM »
“The expectation of those close to Nico Williams is for the player to leave, possibly in the summer. So at the moment, the situation is still complicated.”

Thats the quote in that article.

Elsewhere there is the quote “I think (Villa) will try for many players; for Nico Williams, it’s true that they have an interest, but from what I’m told, Nico Williams is not leaving now. So he’s not leaving in January unless something crazy happens in the final days.”

Which is still a million miles away from us having a bid accepted for him.

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #292 on: February 02, 2023, 11:37:36 AM »
“The expectation of those close to Nico Williams is for the player to leave, possibly in the summer. So at the moment, the situation is still complicated.”

Thats the quote in that article.

I honestly don't care enough to carry on with this, I made a bit of a throwaway comment and have had 3 of you grilling me over it for nearly 4 hours. I think if it was completely made up that we were so close to a very big signing we'd know by now, you don't have to agree but we're just gonig in circles now.

Well you've implied that people you trust like Percy and Romano have mentioned it, when in fact neither of them have, and the only mention is a supposed quote from a bullshit site that doesn't even mention Villa.

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #293 on: February 02, 2023, 11:39:26 AM »
“The expectation of those close to Nico Williams is for the player to leave, possibly in the summer. So at the moment, the situation is still complicated.”

Thats the quote in that article.

I honestly don't care enough to carry on with this, I made a bit of a throwaway comment and have had 3 of you grilling me over it for nearly 4 hours. I think if it was completely made up that we were so close to a very big signing we'd know by now, you don't have to agree but we're just gonig in circles now.

Well you've implied that people you trust like Percy and Romano have mentioned it, when in fact neither of them have, and the only mention is a supposed quote from a bullshit site that doesn't even mention Villa.

To be fair, Paul actually suggests that it's the very fact that they haven't mentioned it that means the story is obviously true.

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #294 on: February 02, 2023, 11:57:26 AM »
“The expectation of those close to Nico Williams is for the player to leave, possibly in the summer. So at the moment, the situation is still complicated.”

Thats the quote in that article.

I honestly don't care enough to carry on with this, I made a bit of a throwaway comment and have had 3 of you grilling me over it for nearly 4 hours. I think if it was completely made up that we were so close to a very big signing we'd know by now, you don't have to agree but we're just gonig in circles now.

Well you've implied that people you trust like Percy and Romano have mentioned it, when in fact neither of them have, and the only mention is a supposed quote from a bullshit site that doesn't even mention Villa.

To be fair, Paul actually suggests that it's the very fact that they haven't mentioned it that means the story is obviously true.

No I don't, I said that I believe it's true and that you lot can believe whatever you like, that's really not the same as me saying it's obviously true.

I think if Romano is asked about it and quoted as having spoken to a source it's reasonable to expect that he'd say "there's been no contact between Villa and Williams" if that were the case. That's it, you lot have made this a much bigger deal than I ever intended.

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #295 on: February 02, 2023, 11:58:41 AM »
“The expectation of those close to Nico Williams is for the player to leave, possibly in the summer. So at the moment, the situation is still complicated.”

Thats the quote in that article.

I honestly don't care enough to carry on with this, I made a bit of a throwaway comment and have had 3 of you grilling me over it for nearly 4 hours. I think if it was completely made up that we were so close to a very big signing we'd know by now, you don't have to agree but we're just gonig in circles now.

Well you've implied that people you trust like Percy and Romano have mentioned it, when in fact neither of them have, and the only mention is a supposed quote from a bullshit site that doesn't even mention Villa.

Again I mentioned Percy as someone who, if he heard it was bullshit, would've posted about it.

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #296 on: February 02, 2023, 12:00:31 PM »
I freely admit I might be wrong

Might have been better to leave it at that point then.

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #297 on: February 02, 2023, 12:19:01 PM »
Tough crowd, you can't as much as fart in the wrong direction on this thread!

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #298 on: February 02, 2023, 12:19:46 PM »
I freely admit I might be wrong

Might have been better to leave it at that point then.

I'd rather be wrong about something this utterly inconsequential than about things that actually matter, like thinking Sunak would make a good prime minister.

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Re: January Transfer Window - The Verdict.
« Reply #299 on: February 02, 2023, 12:38:17 PM »
Tough crowd, you can't as much as fart in the wrong direction on this thread!

There's certainly nothing har-farted about some of the posts at the moment that's for sure :-)

 


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