Southampton 0 Aston Villa 1 Post Match Celebrations

[dave shelley]

I think I've mentioned it before but in case I haven't.  Refereeing is a closed shop, the laws are so ambiguous you will not get one referee come out publicly and say another referee was wrong, even if one took a bow and arrow on to the pitch and used a player as a target.

[pablo_picasso]

I think I've mentioned it before but in case I haven't.  Refereeing is a closed shop, the laws are so ambiguousyou will not get one referee come out publicly and say another referee was wrong, even if one took a bow and arrow on to the pitch and used a player as a target.

That is something that infuriates me. Something that referees talk about a lot that the laws are "subjective". Which is garbage. Laws that are written down for everyone to follow should not be "ambiguous" or "subjective". Rules should be clear & concise so that everybody is playing the same game. If they aren't, then they are not worth the paper they are written on.

[Hookeysmith]

Also as already mentioned - the MOTD editing of games is getting worse and worse to the point where you do consider if you have seen another game. Neither of the pen decisions were even shown.

Their own BBC stats

Possession 64%
Shots 16 compared to 8 by Soton
On Target - same @ 5
Fouls 19 by Soton 9 by us

That in anyones book is a dominant, controlled performance but you would not of thought it in the game footage.

wankers

The same could be said about the Leedz game where the physical assault by brassneck in goal on Countinho not even shown

[eamonn]

I'm sure it's come up 30 times before but is Gallagher Villa?

[Percy McCarthy]

Sky Sports just did ref watch & even that snivelling little bellend Dermot Gallagher had to admit that Southamptons goal should have been disallowed due to the achilles stamp. The Chelsea fan presenter who looks like like he could do with a good sandwich tried to argue that it was the wrong decision because Danny Welbeck didnt get one in the Brighton game...  Imbecile.

Gallagher bends over backwards to say the ref was right every week.

Surely that is the only reason the Hobbit is there in the first place?

Indeed. I only commented as Pablo said ‘even Gallagher agreed’. He always agrees.

[pablo_picasso]

Sky Sports just did ref watch & even that snivelling little bellend Dermot Gallagher had to admit that Southamptons goal should have been disallowed due to the achilles stamp. The Chelsea fan presenter who looks like like he could do with a good sandwich tried to argue that it was the wrong decision because Danny Welbeck didnt get one in the Brighton game...  Imbecile.

Gallagher bends over backwards to say the ref was right every week.

Surely that is the only reason the Hobbit is there in the first place?

Indeed. I only commented as Pablo said ‘even Gallagher agreed’. He always agrees.

But most media outlets haven't agreed. They have looked at the push & ignored the achilles tread & then called the incident "controversial". Including Sky Sports News.

[Nev]

I've noticed that some incidents are left out of the highlights and then bought up during the analysis later on, which is a proper ******'s trick for those of us who fast forward through Richards grinning like a ninny and Murphy's mogadon monologues.

[Drummond]

Another win, away from home. And we're going to strengthen.

Double the possession, shots, and half the fouls committed. We're on the up.

[The Edge]

I did put this on the EM thread but I'll repeat myself. On MOTD2 last night they did a montage of the best saves in the PL so far this season. Not even one from Emi Martinez. Pricks.

I didn't watch but let me guess, was this inspired by De Gea's admittedly good save against Arsenal, his one good save in 10 games that everyone raves about before he goes back to letting dribblers through his legs?

Got it in one.

[Exeter 77]

I'm sure it's come up 30 times before but is Gallagher Villa?

Not seen that anywhere. Andre Mariner is definitely a Villa fan which is why we never get him.

[supertom]

We're in a good run, but time off is often a killer for us. Really hope we don't lose the momentum having to wait a fortnight for the next game. The plus side is the recovery time, but it happened under Smith and under Gerrard where we'd pick up a couple of results, break off for international games or whatever and come back flat footed.

Hopefully, Unai will ensure we're on the ball and keep the levels up.

[Paul.S]

We're in a good run, but time off is often a killer for us. Really hope we don't lose the momentum having to wait a fortnight for the next game. The plus side is the recovery time, but it happened under Smith and under Gerrard where we'd pick up a couple of results, break off for international games or whatever and come back flat footed.

Hopefully, Unai will ensure we're on the ball and keep the levels up.

Emery will use every minute of the 2 weeks to make us even better. He’s a class act and maybe he’ll have another new signing to integrate. I’d expect us to be even better if anything.

[baddowvillans]

Just seen ref watch and I think they totally missed the point when discussing the disallowed goal for Southampton.  They compared the challenge on Ramsey with two other challenges where penalties were not  given and ask why the "bar" was different.  Surely with Villa it's a case of "a foul" was committed which might not have been a free kick in the middle of the pitch but because not awarding it would mean a goal was scored the offending team should not be rewarded.

[pablo_picasso]

I'm sure it's come up 30 times before but is Gallagher Villa?

Not seen that anywhere. Andre Mariner is definitely a Villa fan which is why we never get him.

And yet we get reffed against both Manc clubs by a Manc... 

[paul_e]

Just seen ref watch and I think they totally missed the point when discussing the disallowed goal for Southampton.  They compared the challenge on Ramsey with two other challenges where penalties were not  given and ask why the "bar" was different.  Surely with Villa it's a case of "a foul" was committed which might not have been a free kick in the middle of the pitch but because not awarding it would mean a goal was scored the offending team should not be rewarded.

The 'bar' is different because when a goal has been scored VAR can step in but they can't anywhere else, that's how it's designed to be and is one of the big reasons it doesn't work as it should.

Aside from that the ref spent most of the gqame giving soft free kicks for minimal contact (edozie got 3-4 cheap decisions like that) so even within the game the precedent was that the ref was going to give it. The exception was when Ramsey should've had a penalty because there was definitely as much contasct for that as there had been for a bunch of other fouls he gave. The only reason it wasn't given is because Ramsey was already on the turn, if he'd tried to take a touch instead of spinning the defender it'd have been a stonewall penalty because the defender went straight through his standing leg.