Jhon Durán

[Rigadon]

He doesn't even start regularly for a team who are miles off competing for the title and probably won't even finish top 4!

It's almost as if that has absolutely no bearing at all on his individual value.

I would say we're more KMs that miles from a title too.  Keeping the likes of Duran, Kamara and Rogers (and adding absolute quality in other areas) could conceivably get us close.

[Chip Butty 111]

If Liverpool weren't flying in the League and CL we would be very nicely positioned in both?

[Accent Guy]

We turned down £40m in the summer for him, since then his performances and profile have multiplied. IF (big IF too) we sell him it will be north of £100m - he is one of the best prospects in world football at the moment, there will be a queue of "big" clubs in for him.

Whoa easy tiger. I like Duran as a bench option, although our all round game is miles better with Ollie in my opinion. If we were to sell Duran, a bench warmer as he is, there is no planet in which we are getting "north of 100mil" for him 60 to 70mil at an absolute push. He doesn't even start regularly for a team who are miles off competing for the title and probably won't even finish top 4!

As I say, he is a good bench option, but a 100 il player he certainly is not. Maybe one day, but not now. Nowhere near.

Just point out Caicedo went for 106 mil and he was in a team that was miles off competing for the title and didn't finish top 4. And the same with Grealish when we sold him. If a team is desperate for the player, they will pay the asking price we want.

You  missed a crucial part of my point. He doesn't START regularly for a team that is miles off the title. Caeceido and Grealish started every week.

Bench warmers for non elite clubs do not go for over 100 million.

[Accent Guy]

If Liverpool weren't flying in the League and CL we would be very nicely positioned in both?

Yes if we had more points and the teams above us had less points, we would be doing better. What's your point?

[Accent Guy]

He doesn't even start regularly for a team who are miles off competing for the title and probably won't even finish top 4!

It's almost as if that has absolutely no bearing at all on his individual value.

I would say we're more KMs that miles from a title too.  Keeping the likes of Duran, Kamara and Rogers (and adding absolute quality in other areas) could conceivably get us close.

We were 20 odd points off 1st place last season and we are double figures off1st again already. We are miles off.

Anyway, Duran is not worth 100 mil as if he was, he would be starting for a 6th place club. He has 4 starts in 50 games.

[Chip Butty 111]

If Liverpool weren't flying in the League and CL we would be very nicely positioned in both?

Yes if we had more points and the teams above us had less points, we would be doing better. What's your point?

What's my point? It's a fact funnily enough? Deary me..

[LeeB]

Who was his disallowed one against? Young Boys? That was great.

Yeah, that may actually be the best of all had it stood. He's lost two Champions League goals through no fault of his own.

[PeterWithesShin]

He doesn't start very often as his competition is one of the most effective forwards in the country. Even in a season where some think he's under par Watkins has 7 goals and 3 assists in 15 league games, games where he rarely plays 90 mins any more so those numbers aren't exactly shabby.
Since the start of last season Ollie is 4th in the combined goals and assists totals, behind Palmer, Salah and Haaland with Saka 5th. We're one of the few clubs in the country where Duran wouldn't be the starter most weeks.

We're in the splendid position of having 2 very effective forwards, most clubs would love to have one of them never mind both.

[LeeB]

We turned down £40m in the summer for him, since then his performances and profile have multiplied. IF (big IF too) we sell him it will be north of £100m - he is one of the best prospects in world football at the moment, there will be a queue of "big" clubs in for him.

Whoa easy tiger. I like Duran as a bench option, although our all round game is miles better with Ollie in my opinion. If we were to sell Duran, a bench warmer as he is, there is no planet in which we are getting "north of 100mil" for him 60 to 70mil at an absolute push. He doesn't even start regularly for a team who are miles off competing for the title and probably won't even finish top 4!

As I say, he is a good bench option, but a 100 il player he certainly is not. Maybe one day, but not now. Nowhere near.

Just point out Caicedo went for 106 mil and he was in a team that was miles off competing for the title and didn't finish top 4. And the same with Grealish when we sold him. If a team is desperate for the player, they will pay the asking price we want.

You  missed a crucial part of my point. He doesn't START regularly for a team that is miles off the title. Caeceido and Grealish started every week.

Bench warmers for non elite clubs do not go for over 100 million.

Both of those could play all on an empty pitch and not match his goals ratio.

He's basically the stand out young centre forward in world football right now, smacking in wonder goals in the top domestic and European competition before his 21st birthday, and clubs were looking at £40m+ before this seasons madness.

Grealish started for a team that finished 11th at best before his transfer so not sure why our 'miles off the title' status is so important.

[AV84]

https://youtube.com/shorts/pDV-3Z9ldGs?si=mjr3m1_HaEZn8HD3

That's the best angle of the goal I've seen where you can actually see where the keeper is when Duran hits it. All the other angles it doesn't even look Duran looks up to see where he is. Crazy good vision or pure dumb luck? The more he does it the more I think it's the former.

[Accent Guy]

If Liverpool weren't flying in the League and CL we would be very nicely positioned in both?

Yes if we had more points and the teams above us had less points, we would be doing better. What's your point?

What's my point? It's a fact funnily enough? Deary me..

So your fact is that if the teams above us had less points then we would be closer to the top? That literally means or adds nothing to the conversation. Deary me indeed.

[Accent Guy]

We turned down £40m in the summer for him, since then his performances and profile have multiplied. IF (big IF too) we sell him it will be north of £100m - he is one of the best prospects in world football at the moment, there will be a queue of "big" clubs in for him.

Whoa easy tiger. I like Duran as a bench option, although our all round game is miles better with Ollie in my opinion. If we were to sell Duran, a bench warmer as he is, there is no planet in which we are getting "north of 100mil" for him 60 to 70mil at an absolute push. He doesn't even start regularly for a team who are miles off competing for the title and probably won't even finish top 4!

As I say, he is a good bench option, but a 100 il player he certainly is not. Maybe one day, but not now. Nowhere near.

Just point out Caicedo went for 106 mil and he was in a team that was miles off competing for the title and didn't finish top 4. And the same with Grealish when we sold him. If a team is desperate for the player, they will pay the asking price we want.

You  missed a crucial part of my point. He doesn't START regularly for a team that is miles off the title. Caeceido and Grealish started every week.

Bench warmers for non elite clubs do not go for over 100 million.

Both of those could play all on an empty pitch and not match his goals ratio.

He's basically the stand out young centre forward in world football right now, smacking in wonder goals in the top domestic and European competition before his 21st birthday, and clubs were looking at £40m+ before this seasons madness.

Grealish started for a team that finished 11th at best before his transfer so not sure why our 'miles off the title' status is so important.

Grealish was our talisman for several years and started every game when fit. He also ran the show for years. Nothing at all like where Duran is at this stage.

I like Duran, but 100 mil is mental. Anyway, I doubt we will be selling him any time soon. I certainly wouldn't. Not for what we would likely get for him.

[LeeB]

Yes Grealish was, but we were basically a shit team.

If Jhon were playing for a shit team, like say West Ham, he'd be playing every week too. I agree £100m is madness but that's the game, and centre forwards will always command a premium.

I would say for comparison look at Julian Alvarez. Never really first choice in his time at City and never really looked top drawer to my eyes, he's roughly 4 years older and went for £80 odd million.

[Paul.S]

I think £100m isn’t a bad starting point for him. He’s a tremendous player with ability to burn and the potential to be one of the best.
It is silly money but that’s football today and if someone wants to buy him anything less would be a gift.

[Dave]

I would say for comparison look at Julian Alvarez. Never really first choice in his time at City and never really looked top drawer to my eyes, he's roughly 4 years older and went for £80 odd million.

As I said earlier, I reckon Hoilund to Man Utd is the obvious comparison.

Went to them for £70m or so at the age Duran is now, having done far less for Atalanta* than Duran has done for us.

*not as first choice striker for a team not winning the league, too