Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem

[brian green]

Just home from the game.  That game has to go in the Hall of Shame with the others that have been inflicted on us by the team we support. The big difference about that one compared with Doncaster, Wycombe, Port Vale and the rest is that that game was tossed away with an arrogance that had to be seen to be believed.

[Clampy]

The manager has disrespected our club and has shown no understanding of the FA Cup.
Idiotic

Grow up…..all you post is bloody negative

Yep. The 'disrespected our club' thing is just utter bollocks.

[Allan C]

To be honest, I’m already over being knocked out of the FA Cup. I’ll start caring about it when they do, if you want to win something you play your best team and we didn’t. Having said that, the team picked should have won comfortably. What I do care about going forward is the total lack of quality in our squad players which has been blatantly obvious for at least 3 seasons. All of the players brought in today were awful. Bang average players and yes I include Sanson in that who did no more than ok today against a 4th division side. Dendoncker, Bailey, Bednarek, Chambers, Bailey, Augustinsson and Olsen need replacing as quickly as possible for us to progress. This lot were poor under Gerrard and no amount of “proper coaching” is gonna improve them.

[Clampy]

I didn't like the way we tried to walk it into the net either, especially in the second half.

[gpbarr]

Emery isn’t about criticism at all - he shoulders some of the blame today.

But some of the nonsense on here is a joke. One poster said “that’s all on Emery” - doesn’t even deserve a response.

The guy has been a breath of fresh air at the club.
He’s had 6 games.
None of these players were signed by him.
Many of these players are clearly not good enough (and we knew that long before kick off) but he can only pick from the squad he inherited - he hasn’t even had a tsfr window yet

Listen, if it makes you feel better to find a scape goat for todays debacle, fill your boots. But Emery is here now to help sort this shit out and needs longer than 10 weeks. Many of us said the rest of this season was going to be a roller-coaster as he gets to work - the Spurs victory on New Years Day and todays horror show is ample proof of that.

Tylenol taken.

Onto Leeds on Friday - UTV

[Legion]

Not disrespect, but a massive error of judgement on his part for this. I still think he is the one to take us forward, though.

[levico]

Calmed down a bit now. Just Villa being Villa. Hopefully Emery will have learned a lot today, let’s judge on how he reacts.

[Skerra]

When you know you’re not going to do anything in the league and have the chance to win the only trophy on offer, what do you do? Yes, that’s right, play the reserves and get knocked out asap. What a load of bollocks. You couldn’t make this shit up.

[Gareth]

Firstly massive congratulations to Stevenage, they defended superbly for 75 minutes then got themselves in the game.

For me that was an arrogant, lazy performance, we were trying to create the perfect goal with flicks and back heels around the box and a complete lack of interest in getting shots away.  Their keeper barely had anything to do for the entire game.

Slow, ponderous, uncontrolled & physically weak…

The only starters I’d say were ok were Sanson and Bednarek who did everything he needed to do in the game.

Olsen, simply a keeper in the Nyland mould, can look ok then has a brain fart.
Cash, zero effect in attack
Augustinsson, can’t beat an egg, should have been hooked at half time
Bednarek, was ok
Chambers, looked decent when arrived, not now
Luiz, was at heart of play, guilty of over playing
Dendoncker, adequate squad player, won’t go anywhere if he’s a starter
Sanson, guess that was au revoir, played ok but
Is very weak
Bailey, lot of ball, did nothing with it, easily upgraded!
Coutinho, offered for ball but was most guilty of over playing
Ings, better finisher than Watkins we know, offers literally nothing else to play

[brontebilly]

Didn't see game today fortunately but that's a humiliating result for the club. Team selection should have been more than strong enough to get the win. Olsen was shocking for the winner. A number of players might have had their last game for the club.

[Clark W Griswold]

Firstly massive congratulations to Stevenage, they defended superbly for 75 minutes then got themselves in the game.

For me that was an arrogant, lazy performance, we were trying to create the perfect goal with flicks and back heels around the box and a complete lack of interest in getting shots away.  Their keeper barely had anything to do for the entire game.

Slow, ponderous, uncontrolled & physically weak…

The only starters I’d say were ok were Sanson and Bednarek who did everything he needed to do in the game.

Olsen, simply a keeper in the Nyland mould, can look ok then has a brain fart.
Cash, zero effect in attack
Augustinsson, can’t beat an egg, should have been hooked at half time
Bednarek, was ok
Chambers, looked decent when arrived, not now
Luiz, was at heart of play, guilty of over playing
Dendoncker, adequate squad player, won’t go anywhere if he’s a starter
Sanson, guess that was au revoir, played ok but
Is very weak
Bailey, lot of ball, did nothing with it, easily upgraded!
Coutinho, offered for ball but was most guilty of over playing
Ings, better finisher than Watkins we know, offers literally nothing else to play

I’d say that’s pretty fair. I’d be a little more damning of Olsen and I thought Bednarek was a little worse than ok but otherwise pretty spot on. Coutinho and Bailey didn’t lack effort but if you can’t be more effective than that against a Div 4 team you’re really in the shit. They did defend pretty well but even so…

[pablo_picasso]

It's largely irrelevant now, but the ref's made a mistake hasn't he with the sending off and penalty?

The double jeopardy rule says that it's only a red card AND penalty if there was no genuine attempt to play the ball. The shirt pull was worthy of a red card, but that took place outside the area, so if that was the action that got him sent off, it shouldn't have been a penalty. If the penalty was for Dendoncker bringing him down in the area with his legs, well that was an attempt to win the ball. Still a penalty, but no red card.

I wonder whether there will be an appeal and overturned as I reckon you're right.  Clearly, the foul started outside the box, I can only presume the referee didn't want to give the shirt pull as a foul?

VAR made the decision & when they were focusing on the shirt pull they looked at it from when he started the shirt pull, which was clearly outside the box, & then focused on where it ended. Which was inside the box. I was under the impression that free kicks are given from where incidents start. Otherwise, one could easily start pulling the shirt from inside the box & let go when they run outside the box. Would that make it a free kick or a pen? But whether the VAR made a mistake or not, should not detract from how complete & utter shite we were.

[john e]

It’s not Olsen’s fault, he is what he is, not very good
He’s let in 16 goals in 6 games ffs

You’re not going to win the FA Cup with him in goals even if you get through the first rounds you’ll come a cropper at some point

[Axl Rose]

When you know you’re not going to do anything in the league and have the chance to win the only trophy on offer, what do you do? Yes, that’s right, play the reserves and get knocked out asap. What a load of bollocks. You couldn’t make this shit up.

That's where I am, fella.

[Risso]

Making say, 5 changes is bad enough when you bring in players who are in and around the first team a fair amount, as it means you lose a bit of understanding and fluidity. When you bring in players who rarely get any minutes at all like Chambers, Bednarek and Sanson, then those attributes goes out of the window altogether, and you're relying on the players' greater ability to outdo the cohesion of the opposition. I would say that this approach has never, ever served us well.