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Author Topic: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem  (Read 39838 times)

Offline SoccerHQ

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #75 on: January 08, 2023, 07:10:11 PM »
We weren't very good for most of that game.

For 89 minutes it was just shaping up as win 1-0 and pretend that match never happened.

The last 5 minutes means we'll never forget it now for all the wrong results.

I really really hope we're not reverting to type with performances especially at VP.

After today from the established players Cash, Coutinho and Bailey really shouldn't be starting for foreseeable future.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #76 on: January 08, 2023, 07:12:27 PM »
OK, so, the manager of course deserves his share. Motivation is partly the coach's responsibility of course, and the tone is set at the top. If the tone is half-arsed, or if he's not but fails to get his point across, obviously he's failed.

However.

The selection is not the issue. These weren't the kids or the bomb squad, every single one of those players are in contention every week for a place. To a man, played for their countries, or in Europe, all played in one of the big European leagues for practically all their careers. One week of each of their wages would pay for God knows how much of their opposite number's salary.

It's a team, in short, that would have expected themselves to compete in a Premier League game. And what they have managed to do today should haunt them for the rest of their careers. Shameful in the extreme.

Well said! A lot of attitude by those players and especially the coasting going on and then failure in the last 5 minutes.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #77 on: January 08, 2023, 07:12:58 PM »
Doncaster was worse. I was 20 something and it hurt like hell I'm 45 now and this feels like something we've all seen far too often. The performance tonight was poor but we still looked.set to progress up until that penalty. The collapse from then on was prime prime Villa.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #78 on: January 08, 2023, 07:14:46 PM »
Every one connected with Aston Villa should be ashamed and embarrassed by that performance.
Play walking football for 80 odd minutes and you stand the chance of a sucker punch.
Had we played with pace, drive and power we’d have burned them out in 60 mins. As it was we helped conserve their energy for them.

2 games on the bounce where we haven’t turned up.
What the fuck is going on?

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #79 on: January 08, 2023, 07:15:07 PM »
Was going to say that if you think _that_ was the most embarrassing Villa display, you've clearly either not been a Villa supporter for long, or have a very short memory!

As someone else said, we absolutely Villa'd them!

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #80 on: January 08, 2023, 07:15:28 PM »
Strolled around like Billy big bollocks and paid the price, deservedly so. So many players were woeful but special mention to Bailey who was dreadful from start to finish, well done.

Bradford still takes award for the worst cup performance(s) ever but this is definitely up there.

Congratulations to Stevenage, they were organised and worked their socks off and knew they would get a half chance at some point.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #81 on: January 08, 2023, 07:16:40 PM »
Watkins and Mings did not play in the match today.
Their attitude, skills and usual work rate would probably have made a big difference, but they were not on the pitch.


Just confirming this, because they have both featured in certain fans’ vitriolic posts about today’s performance above; why, I have absolutely no idea.

The celebrated internationals and senior players in their roles failed to generate enough wattage to illuminate a gnat.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #82 on: January 08, 2023, 07:17:47 PM »


The selection is not the issue. These weren't the kids or the bomb squad, every single one of those players are in contention every week for a place. To a man, played for their countries, or in Europe, all played in one of the big European leagues for practically all their careers. One week of each of their wages would pay for God knows how much of their opposite number's salary.

It's a team, in short, that would have expected themselves to compete in a Premier League game.

Does he pick that team with that amount of unenforced changes for a key PL game?  No.

So the selection is an issue.  It's not the only one, granted. But it sets the tone and tells the players the result is in the bag no matter what.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #83 on: January 08, 2023, 07:18:22 PM »
F-cking dreadful! Absolutely f-cking dreadful!
Other than Sanson every other player should be f-cking disgusted with that! Substitutions didn’t improve us at all. Captain for the last home match...where was Young’s leadership when he came on alongside 2 poor cbs. An international goalkeeper who gets beaten at his near post by a daisy cutter is f-cking disgraceful and what kind of hospital ball was that to dendoncker for their 1st. We were sh-t throughout and barely troubled their keeper.
The lot of them can just go and f-ck off!

Sorry but apart from the goal I thought Sanson was, and is, rubbish. If you observe him closely you’ll notice that every single time he receives the ball he plays it safe, dragging it back on to his favoured foot, away from goal, before passing it sideways and quashing momentum. He very rarely does one touch. I just don’t see what he offers and I think we should sell him. He certainly wasn’t the only culprit today, but he’s just so average.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #84 on: January 08, 2023, 07:21:12 PM »
Watkins and Mings did not play in the match today.
Their attitude, skills and usual work rate would probably have made a big difference, but they were not on the pitch.


Just confirming this, because they have both featured in certain fans’ vitriolic posts about today’s performance above; why, I have absolutely no idea.

The celebrated internationals and senior players in their roles failed to generate enough wattage to illuminate a gnat.
Spot on.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #85 on: January 08, 2023, 07:21:42 PM »
Watkins and Mings did not play in the match today.
Their attitude, skills and usual work rate would probably have made a big difference, but they were not on the pitch.


Just confirming this, because they have both featured in certain fans’ vitriolic posts about today’s performance above; why, I have absolutely no idea.

The celebrated internationals and senior players in their roles failed to generate enough wattage to illuminate a gnat.

Watkins was on the pitch, not closing down the scorer of the winning goal!

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #86 on: January 08, 2023, 07:21:54 PM »
Our players seemed to hit deck more than theirs too. A premier league thing perhaps.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #87 on: January 08, 2023, 07:21:55 PM »
We could not have played more like clowns if our players had been wearing actual clown shoes. Fucking embarrassing, losing to a team that didn't even seem overly bothered about winning.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #88 on: January 08, 2023, 07:22:34 PM »


The selection is not the issue. These weren't the kids or the bomb squad, every single one of those players are in contention every week for a place. To a man, played for their countries, or in Europe, all played in one of the big European leagues for practically all their careers. One week of each of their wages would pay for God knows how much of their opposite number's salary.

It's a team, in short, that would have expected themselves to compete in a Premier League game.

Does he pick that team with that amount of unenforced changes for a key PL game?  No.

So the selection is an issue.  It's not the only one, granted. But it sets the tone and tells the players the result is in the bag no matter what.

Literally every single manager in the world would have rung the changes. Every single one. And every one of the players who came in is a senior member of the squad, one who should be able to contribute to wins in the Premier League. You can say it set the tone, but honestly I can't imagine letting the players off the hook that easy. Every manager would've done the same, and they should have had enough to beat a team in League 2. I'm sorry, it's that simple.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Stevenage Humiliation Post-Mortem
« Reply #89 on: January 08, 2023, 07:22:37 PM »
Watkins and Mings did not play in the match today.
Their attitude, skills and usual work rate would probably have made a big difference, but they were not on the pitch.


Just confirming this, because they have both featured in certain fans’ vitriolic posts about today’s performance above; why, I have absolutely no idea.

The celebrated internationals and senior players in their roles failed to generate enough wattage to illuminate a gnat.

Watkins came on in the second half, but take your point about Mings.

 


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