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Author Topic: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread  (Read 496229 times)

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #3615 on: January 31, 2023, 09:32:59 PM »
At this rate Ashley Young will have to play upfront if we are stuck

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #3616 on: January 31, 2023, 09:33:17 PM »
It wouldn't be a transfer window if we didn't sign the obligatory left-back.  A young striker is an interesting new twist (assuming we didn't count Wesley as one).

I think we have seen the BS of our approach over the last couple of seasons being called out - switching between long-term and short-term thinking seemingly at will with no real plan.  I really think there will be some big changes in the summer.  The owners have shown two things - they give people a chance but are decisive once they have made their mind up - I would be very surprised if Purslow and Lange are still here next season - as I think they have both reached their ceilings. 

Offline Paul.S

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #3617 on: January 31, 2023, 09:33:42 PM »
Martinez
Olsen
Young
Cash
Mings
Konsa
Carlos
Chambers
Moreno
Digne
Kamara
Luiz
McGinn
Dendonker
Ramsey
Buendia
Coutinho
Bailey
Watkins
Duran
Traore

Can someone who is pissing and moaning tell me where we would find places for Sanson, Ings, Nakamba or anyone else we have got rid of on even the bench? The problem isn’t that we haven’t got enough players now, it’s that the squad was too bloated to start with. We have been spending fortunes on average players who get nowhere near the team for way too long. Like at home, sometimes you have to clear your shit out before buying any shiny new things.

Yes, in an ideal world we would have signed another striker, but if it’s not a long-term option it’s just another body to get rid of later on and one that costs more money in the meantime. A better second choice keeper would also have been nice, but again realistically is a waste of money on someone who is unlikely to get a game this season when you might be able to get a better option on a free in June.

We won’t see Carlos for a few months, Traore is injured and Duran hasn’t played in a few months. With 5 subs I don’t see many game changing changes Emery could make from that.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #3618 on: January 31, 2023, 09:34:07 PM »
We have let Ings go and got Traore back - like for like in quality more or less. we ve got a promising young centerforward, seriously stronger in LB got, let deadwood go in January window where we had some strong squad from before - what s not to like. Emery want som more sure  -decided better to wait to summer.
Totally agree mate. I just don’t see the need for this clamour to get players in in mid season not only at Villa but all around.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #3619 on: January 31, 2023, 09:34:39 PM »
A lot of hand-wringing about not having 9 approriate subs. We'll only ever use 5 max, so three goalies and a 12 year-old filling it up won't make much difference.

Eh? Isn't the idea to have the best options you can off the bench? I don't see any club saying "well, we can only use five of them so fuck it, let's put mannequins on the others".

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #3620 on: January 31, 2023, 09:34:44 PM »
Any chance of recruiting Brighton’s scouting team?

Offline Paul.S

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #3621 on: January 31, 2023, 09:35:23 PM »
Definite change of approach.  Self sustaining is now the mantra.  And with our commercial revenue and catering ability we won’t be getting big signings any time soon.  I cannot believe Emery thought this would be how the window would pan out.  Be interesting to hear him on Friday.

It’s what the owners said when they came in but I didn’t expect we’d end up with 1 forward ready to go.

Offline Pat Mustard

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #3622 on: January 31, 2023, 09:35:34 PM »
Eh?

Sanson has been on the bench, and Ings is our highest scorer? You reckon he wouldn't be playing given Duran is here?

Yes, Danny Ings. The goal poacher with a 1 in 4 return who may as well have not been on the pitch against Stevenage and Leeds. His goal return wasn’t remotely good enough to justify a place when he detracted so much overall from the team when he played.

Who does Sanson get on ahead of? If we are holding onto a game Dendoncker comes in, if we’re chasing we’d go for an attacking option, and that’s before we’ve decided which of Ramsey or McGinn is on the bench when all are fit.  In over 2 years he started how many games - 5/6?

Between the two of them we were eating up the thick end of £10 million a year in wages alone - players who at best are starting 25-30 games in total between them. It’s not just wasteful, it actively prevents us moving forward when the players we really want are available.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #3623 on: January 31, 2023, 09:36:14 PM »
Any chance of recruiting Brighton’s scouting team?
Recruiting team yes, selling team no. Brighton are tomorrow’s Southampton.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #3624 on: January 31, 2023, 09:37:20 PM »
Any chance of recruiting Brighton’s scouting team?
I did think similar - like surely that is the best way of getting value for money?  Getting the best scouts

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #3625 on: January 31, 2023, 09:37:52 PM »
Last winter Arsenal got rid of a lot of players. They signed a young back up keeper and a player from the MLS. They then lined up their deals for last summer.
Last winter Newcastle signed a few players, paid a bit over the odds but saw immediate benefit.  They then lined up more deals for last summer.

This just shows that different approaches can work

Is there an example of a club choosing to spend half a season with one senior striker and it going well?

Didnt West Ham have a Champions League spot chase last season with only Antonio?

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #3626 on: January 31, 2023, 09:37:59 PM »
We're currently 3 points off 6th place or if you prefer 3 points off seventh with a game in hand. What could possibly go wrong?

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #3627 on: January 31, 2023, 09:38:04 PM »
Pat Mustard Ings and Sansom are much more useful than Coutinho and Dendoncker.

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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #3628 on: January 31, 2023, 09:38:11 PM »
A lot of hand-wringing about not having 9 approriate subs. We'll only ever use 5 max, so three goalies and a 12 year-old filling it up won't make much difference.

Eh? Isn't the idea to have the best options you can off the bench? I don't see any club saying "well, we can only use five of them so fuck it, let's put mannequins on the others".

You could guess our five most likely subs like I'm sure fans of other clubs could with theirs.


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Re: January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread
« Reply #3629 on: January 31, 2023, 09:38:27 PM »
Eh?

Sanson has been on the bench, and Ings is our highest scorer? You reckon he wouldn't be playing given Duran is here?

Yes, Danny Ings. The goal poacher with a 1 in 4 return who may as well have not been on the pitch against Stevenage and Leeds. His goal return wasn’t remotely good enough to justify a place when he detracted so much overall from the team when he played.

Who does Sanson get on ahead of? If we are holding onto a game Dendoncker comes in, if we’re chasing we’d go for an attacking option, and that’s before we’ve decided which of Ramsey or McGinn is on the bench when all are fit.  In over 2 years he started how many games - 5/6?

Between the two of them we were eating up the thick end of £10 million a year in wages alone - players who at best are starting 25-30 games in total between them. It’s not just wasteful, it actively prevents us moving forward when the players we really want are available.

Whatever you think of Ings - he was our top scorer, and I fail to see any argument whereby literally no option whatsoever is better than him.

 


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