January 2023 Transfer Rumours, Discussions and Done Deals Thread

[Dave]

We keep saying about Lange etc. but short of kidnapping and extortion what's supposed to do if the player we want doesn't want to join?

Don't ship out the players that we are trying to replace if the above was a possibility?

[Drummond]

We keep saying about Lange etc. but short of kidnapping and extortion what's supposed to do if the player we want doesn't want to join? He's not responsible for the club appointing an under qualified scouse arse to pick the team, and he's somewhat reliant on results on the pitch to entice players in.

Plus, Boubacar Kamara for nothing is the fucking deal of the century.

That and the Dhuran deal were worked on for months, the recruitment team travelling various times etc. Emery has to have final say obviously, and I'd like to think the likes of Guendouzi will have been worked on but I'd also imagine that was a relatively short term decision.

When you're a kid in a sweet shop you go in pick what you want and go home, it's just not that simple.

[pauliewalnuts]

We keep saying about Lange etc. but short of kidnapping and extortion what's supposed to do if the player we want doesn't want to join?.

Not move on other players?

Can’t wait to see the state of our bench against Leicester.  I reckon Jack Woodward is in with a chance of being on it. We’ll probably have three keepers on it.

[curiousorange]

For me it comes down to: what are your ambitions, not just for this season but the start of next? Because Martinez and Kamara won't hang around out of the goodness of their hearts. Making a play for Europe now we're far closer than we imagined is imperative, I feel. If we don't reinforce now, or pay for what we need to make a real charge, we'll be buying a new keeper and DM in the summer too.

[Drummond]

We keep saying about Lange etc. but short of kidnapping and extortion what's supposed to do if the player we want doesn't want to join?

Don't ship out the players that we are trying to replace if the above was a possibility?

The only departure that has any impact on a match day is Ings. Given most people seemed to not think he was right for us, to get what we did was good business. Other than that we're not any worse off are we? Light on numbers but not on people challenging the first team, and that's the issue we've been facing.

[curiousorange]

We keep saying about Lange etc. but short of kidnapping and extortion what's supposed to do if the player we want doesn't want to join?.

Not move on other players?

Can’t wait to see the state of our bench against Leicester.  I reckon Jack Woodward is in with a chance of being on it. We’ll probably have three letters on it.

Someone on Twitter raised the possibility that once Emery's targets were unobtainable, Lange's well was dry. While I don't believe Lange wouldn't be able to rustle up an alternative, I do think there's a disconnect between Emery and Lange given Emery wanted his own man in.

[kippaxvilla2]

We still need 10 points to survive.  Assuming we achieve that it was such a unique and great opportunity to push for top 8.  At some point the lack of depth in the squad will come back on us.  Lower than halfway again when that happens.

[Drummond]

For me it comes down to: what are your ambitions, not just for this season but the start of next? Because Martinez and Kamara won't hang around out of the goodness of their hearts. Making a play for Europe now we're far closer than we imagined is imperative, I feel. If we don't reinforce now, or pay for what we need to make a real charge, we'll be buying a new keeper and DM in the summer too.

Although we could, through trying now, be creating deals for the summer instead. The likes of Guendouzi and Dembele may not be available now but could be in July. So should we buy lesser players now, only to have to fuck them off again in 6 months?

[LeeB]

We keep saying about Lange etc. but short of kidnapping and extortion what's supposed to do if the player we want doesn't want to join?

Don't ship out the players that we are trying to replace if the above was a possibility?

We keep saying about Lange etc. but short of kidnapping and extortion what's supposed to do if the player we want doesn't want to join?.

Not move on other players?

Can’t wait to see the state of our bench against Leicester.  I reckon Jack Woodward is in with a chance of being on it. We’ll probably have three keepers on it.

And is this all down to Lange? I doubt anyone has gone in or out without Emery having the final say.

[pauliewalnuts]

Not just Ings, Archer too. Emery has said Duran is one for the future.

Sanson is another one. Bednarek is being recalled so tougher one but Carlos is still miles off coming back.

I understand the concept of only improving the first team but you need a bench too. We’re on our way to not having one.

[pauliewalnuts]

We keep saying about Lange etc. but short of kidnapping and extortion what's supposed to do if the player we want doesn't want to join?

Don't ship out the players that we are trying to replace if the above was a possibility?

We keep saying about Lange etc. but short of kidnapping and extortion what's supposed to do if the player we want doesn't want to join?.

Not move on other players?

Can’t wait to see the state of our bench against Leicester.  I reckon Jack Woodward is in with a chance of being on it. We’ll probably have three keepers on it.

And is this all down to Lange? I doubt anyone has gone in or out without Emery having the final say.

Recruitment and the squad is his patch.

[Dave]

We keep saying about Lange etc. but short of kidnapping and extortion what's supposed to do if the player we want doesn't want to join?

Don't ship out the players that we are trying to replace if the above was a possibility?

The only departure that has any impact on a match day is Ings. Given most people seemed to not think he was right for us, to get what we did was good business. Other than that we're not any worse off are we? Light on numbers but not on people challenging the first team, and that's the issue we've been facing.

That assumes that we are going to get through the next four months with our squad intact. We saw what an injury to Kamara did to our competitiveness.

What's the plan if Watkins and Bailey ping their hamstrings in training on Wednesday and are out for the next six weeks?

There's a reason clubs have more than one senior striker in their squads.

[Beard82]

Im all for not buying people if we don't need to - but we play two upfront - and only have Watkins who has any experience of playing that in the PL.  We need some form of cover - a loan is fine - its just numbers we lack.

Like a couple of people say - this is an opportunity to push on - and we need to show that if we realistically want to hold onto our best players.  If the right player's arent available then fine - but we need to have some loan players or something as we are only a couple of injuries away from being truly fucked.

[curiousorange]

For me it comes down to: what are your ambitions, not just for this season but the start of next? Because Martinez and Kamara won't hang around out of the goodness of their hearts. Making a play for Europe now we're far closer than we imagined is imperative, I feel. If we don't reinforce now, or pay for what we need to make a real charge, we'll be buying a new keeper and DM in the summer too.

Although we could, through trying now, be creating deals for the summer instead. The likes of Guendouzi and Dembele may not be available now but could be in July. So should we buy lesser players now, only to have to fuck them off again in 6 months?

Well, no, we shouldn't. But I don't feel like those are the only two options. Can't you buy a reasonable alternative and also add your first choice later, which can only strengthen the squad?

[Risso]

Saying "only Ings" rather downplays the fact that at the moment he's still our top scorer and has scored a quarter of our league goals. Now if we'd got £15m for him AND brought in a replacement, then that's decent business. At the moment, selling him and not replacing him looks idiotic. I'd much rather have him in the team than nobody. An injury to Watkins, and we're absolutely buggered. You'd get more than the £15m we got for him just for finishing a few places higher up the table.