What does success look like for Emery?

[TonyD]

Play nice football.
Win a cup.
Regular European football.
Bring loads of the kids through the system and give them game time.  No excuses with the 5 sub rule. 

[Tokyo Sexwhale]

Are the domestic cups really that important? Last two seasons we reached cup finals, we barely escaped relegation on both occasions. A team consistently challenging the European spots via the league is surely the primary objective over the next 3 seasons.

Of course they are.  We haven't won anything since 1996.  That's a stupidly long time for a club of our size and status not to have won anything.  No-one under 30 will have any strong memories of us ever winning a trophy (other than the playoff).

We need to keep the next generations of Villa fans interested and invested in the club.  Winning stuff creates and strengthens those connections.

Winning cups also qualifies us for Europe.

And finally, if we're not trying to win things, then what's the point of it all anyway?

[Billy Walker]

The aim should be to turn us into a properly competitive team that is taken seriously.

Finishing in the Top 10 shouldn't be an aspiration, it should be the barest standard - a bad season.

Winning the FA Cup would give automatic legend status, but even the League Cup or his speciality the Europa League would make him the best Villa manager since the 90s.

When we play the likes of Brentford, Palace, Bournemouth, Southampton, Brighton etc, we should be expected to be strong favourites to beat them, rather than them being even encounters.

And when we play the so-called Big 6 or Newcastle (who will eventually join or replace one of them); we should be competitive.  It shouldn't be a walkover or a guaranteed 3 points for any of them.

That would be "success" in today's Premier League.  If he somehow exceeded that, he'd be a truly legendary manager.

I agree with the sex wally.

I would hope our medium-term aim is to also replace one of those six clubs, too.

We need to keep it simple this season, however, with a top half finish and a cup run.

[darren woolley]

I would be happy with finishing 10th or 12th this season and a cup run would be great.

[DeKuip]

As a coach success for Emery will be seeing players improve individually and collectively with team making steady progress each season.
As a fan I’ll be happy if we just play well and win every game.

[Lastfootstamper]

Are the domestic cups really that important? Last two seasons we reached cup finals, we barely escaped relegation on both occasions. A team consistently challenging the European spots via the league is surely the primary objective over the next 3 seasons.

We got to our last two Finals despite being shit in the league. We weren't shit in the league because we were in those Cups and having to play an extra four or five games.

I want us to win stuff, and I can't help noticing a correlation between teams that win domestic Cups and those that do very well in the league. Of the clubs winning the FA Cup since the formation of the PL, only Everton, Portsmouth and Wigan have not also won the latter.

[Drummond]

I know Gerrard has to take some reponsibility for our position, but the players should bear their fair share, not one player in the squad have played to their potential for a long time, that can't be just about the way Gerrard structured the side. That is the new managers first task, to get players showing some positive consistency.
Bailey proved many wrong against Brentford, he is a player, but having shown what he's capable of needs to keep playing to that standard. Always thought that this squad should be in the top eight, if Emery can add a couple of quality players we could be top six.

Having read the article on The Athletic, one thing that leapt out at me was the players' feelings about him. He took time to speak to one in English, takes time to explain to players what he wants from each of them, coaches them, and understands them on a human level, not just as a commodity or player.

Smith did that, and had limited tactical flexibility, Gerrard seemed to have neither, whilst Emery appears to have it all. Having worked at Villareal with players out of form, discarded from other teams and without the high value. He's the real deal.

[Drummond]

I don't remember last season's cup final.

That's because we weren't in it.

[Drummond]

Are the domestic cups really that important?

Not sure if serious...?

I'd take the fucking Papa John's Trophy at present

I'd eat a fucking Papa John's pizza if it gave us a chance.

[olaftab]

Are the domestic cups really that important? Last two seasons we reached cup finals, we barely escaped relegation on both occasions. A team consistently challenging the European spots via the league is surely the primary objective over the next 3 seasons.

Oh you Millennials

[serbentoflight]

All this, plus fans seeing an exciting balance between better buys, favourites staying; and home grown talent given chances. Never easy.

[Baldy]

1) Avoiding relegation this year - not messing. When Forest beat the scousers it shows how difficult this league is.
2) Top 10 - 2023 to 2024 season. Good domestic cup run.
3) Qualify for europe 2024 to 2025 season.

Patience, tis a virtue. 

[Delboy Villan]

Like Slippy I think Emery gets a free pass this season with a lower mid-table finish and a nice cup run a bonus. Next year is all out for the top 7 and getting into Europe somehow.

[Meanwood Villa]

I agree perhaps we shouldn't get too carried away this season given the mess we've been so far but he is coming in at pretty much the same time as Gerrard last season so is minimum expectation that he picks up more points than Gerrard did last season?

[Rico]

If you can't win the league, which lets face it is extremely difficult for anyone but Oil City, then winning trophies on a regular basis has to be the next priority. If you win trophies on a regular basis then you start to attract better players, then you start to finish higher in the league and everyone's happy.

Top half and a good shout in both cups this season please. Win the F. A. Cup and legendary status assured.