Next Manager Speculation/Hopes

[Lastfootstamper]

We're no stepping stone. There's generally only one way your managerial career goes after us. Which is possibly what puts some off more than anything else who might otherwise fancy a go at it.

[ozzjim]

Poch needs a bit of reputation repair, but he could be bloody brilliant with this squad.

[KevinGage]

He's hardly a chequebook manager either.

He worked wonders at Southampton despite being a far from popular appointment initially.  And didn't Tottingham go 12-18 months without signing a player on his watch?  From memory I don't think he had a final say on transfers for most of his tenure there.

[Smirker]

He's hardly a chequebook manager either.

He worked wonders at Southampton despite being a far from popular appointment initially.  And didn't Tottingham go 12-18 months without signing a player on his watch?  From memory I don't think he had a final say on transfers for most of his tenure there.

2018/19 Tottenham signed literally nobody and got to the CL final 

[brontebilly]

We're no stepping stone. There's generally only one way your managerial career goes after us. Which is possibly what puts some off more than anything else who might otherwise fancy a go at it.

Managerial graveyard, some don't even manage again after us (RDM, Tactics, DOL, Garde?), Others we pretty much extinguish any upwardly mobile manager so they have to drop down and start again (Lambert, Gerrard, MON, Little?). Gerrard will be in camp A I think, just doesn't have the people management skills to be a top coach. That ego probably made him a great player but different skills required.

[KRS]

Thoughts on Thomas Frank if we’re unable to secure Poch or someone else more high profile and experienced? Apparently Brentford are looking to negotiate a new contract with him, and I’ve been impressed by what I’ve seen of him.

[cdbearsfan]

I'm not ready to lower my expectations yet, but will see how the coming weeks play out.

[jwarry]

I’m not so sure about Poch.  When you look at his managerial career it’s not that great and the stories of him losing the players at Spudz does not bode well.  His first spell at Espanyol didn’t end well and it looks like Southampton took a punt

[Hillbilly]

There was a story about Smith going to get rid of a youth team player at Walsall because of his attitude, then finding out his home life was chaotic so he helped him out instead, and Walsall sold him for £1 million in the end. Sir Graham was like that. I don't think Gerrard is, and maybe that's because he's always had it easy. He's always been the big star, the player everyone looked at, and because he's never had to struggle he can't understand how anyone can.

This ties to the great managers thread in 'other football' Shankly and Paisley worked at the mines. Fergie was a toolmaker. Clough had his career cut short. Guttmann was tortured by nazis. Sacchi was a shoe salesman. The greatest managers have known something of life.

[sid1964]

On WM last night the presenter said that Villa were trying to get Poch as our new manager

It could be an interesting week

[ChicagoLion]

We're no stepping stone. There's generally only one way your managerial career goes after us. Which is possibly what puts some off more than anything else who might otherwise fancy a go at it.

Managerial graveyard, some don't even manage again after us (RDM, Tactics, DOL, Garde?), Others we pretty much extinguish any upwardly mobile manager so they have to drop down and start again (Lambert, Gerrard, MON, Little?). Gerrard will be in camp A I think, just doesn't have the people management skills to be a top coach. That ego probably made him a great player but different skills required.

The ego is often the thing that stops people being successful, most great leaders have humility.
people have to taste failure to become very successful.

[PaulTheVillan]

I think managers will look at the awful record of most and think they’re the ones to change it around. Which is exactly what I’d want to see. Just never seems to work out

[andyh]

Thoughts on Thomas Frank if we’re unable to secure Poch or someone else more high profile and experienced? Apparently Brentford are looking to negotiate a new contract with him, and I’ve been impressed by what I’ve seen of him.

From one totally arrogant tosser to another?
I’m not sure, and anyway Brentford keep screwing us over so I’m sure Frank would be an unmitigated disaster for us.

[Steve67]

Bbc gossip says the Telegraph reporting that we want Poch.

[frank black]

Bbc gossip says the Telegraph reporting that we want Poch.

TBF that’s probably obvious. Unfortunately I get the impression he doesn’t want the job, or at least will take a hell of a lot of convincing. There’s been rumors we’ve been chatting to his reps for over a month and that he’s been waiting for other opportunities