Next Manager Speculation/Hopes

[john e]

According to the Telegraph, Tuchel has turned down approaches from two Premier League clubs. I'd be interested to find out who they were.

Wolves and either us or Leicester I'd guess.

He wouldn't come here, not after the ice cream-gate scandal.

There’s also decent ITK revealing he’s totally opposed to the new Lantern crest shape

[PeterWithesShin]

Biggest reason we went on that winning run in the Championship is we finally had a defence rather than relying on Chester on one leg with Bree or Elphick as his partner. Grealish missed 13 games, there were 5 games in that run where we scored 2 or 3 goals and didn't win. Once we had actual fit CBs, Mings/Hause/Tuanzabe, the only game we concede 2 was the B team against Norwich. Grealish helped of course, but the defence was the biggest factor imo.

[LeonW]

No other manager has got out of Grealish what Smith did.

Who are you comparing him with? He did well for Bruce, but didn't have the quality of players around him that Smith subsequently had. Southgate is a moron who can't get the best out of anybody, and Man City didn't need him but wanted him for his marketing opportunities and to stop him going elsewhere.

Any manager you want. The ever presents under Smith who helped get us promoted were not that different to those that Bruce had. But even putting that aside, it can't work both ways; he's had way better players to play with England and Man Citeh then Villa.

[LeonW]

No other manager has got out of Grealish what Smith did.

Who are you comparing him with? He did well for Bruce, but didn't have the quality of players around him that Smith subsequently had. Southgate is a moron who can't get the best out of anybody, and Man City didn't need him but wanted him for his marketing opportunities and to stop him going elsewhere.

He’s comparing him with every other manager Grealish has played. Tactics Tim, he was only a kid, great cup semi final, Garde, Di Matteo, Bruce, you can argue he was playing with inferior players but he was also playing against inferior players and looked bang average. Pep, you can say Pep didnt buy him for the right reasons, he plays a different system etc, but you cant have it both ways, he’s now playing with superior players, but the fact is, he was much better for Villa only under Smith.
Yes our form in the 10 game run coincided with his return but i think that was just as much Smith knowing how he ticked. Making him captain on his return was a managerial masterstroke.

Smith was lost without him and i agree his record without Jack was poor, but its two sides of the same coin for player and manager. The real tragedy is for Villa, as it felt for a few months the world was our oyster with both Grealish and Smith steering the ship

What we have now, is a manager who has talented players, no tactical nous and on the face of it the double whammy of no man management skills.

When we lost at Southampton to seal DeanO’s fate, some of the players looked visibly upset. I get the feeling looking at the body language on the pitch, there will be relief when this fella bites the dust. All assumption on my part.

Think that sums it up nicely and the bit highlighted in bold is the point in a nutshell.

[eamonn]

Biggest reason we went on that winning run in the Championship is we finally had a defence rather than relying on Chester on one leg with Bree or Elphick as his partner. Grealish missed 13 games, there were 5 games in that run where we scored 2 or 3 goals and didn't win. Once we had actual fit CBs, Mings/Hause/Tuanzabe, the only game we concede 2 was the B team against Norwich. Grealish helped of course, but the defence was the biggest factor imo.

Impressive memory!

[N'ZMAV]

According to the Telegraph, Tuchel has turned down approaches from two Premier League clubs. I'd be interested to find out who they were.

Wolves and either us or Leicester I'd guess.

Wolves and Bournemouth

[gpbarr]

No other manager has got out of Grealish what Smith did.

Who are you comparing him with? He did well for Bruce, but didn't have the quality of players around him that Smith subsequently had. Southgate is a moron who can't get the best out of anybody, and Man City didn't need him but wanted him for his marketing opportunities and to stop him going elsewhere.

He’s comparing him with every other manager Grealish has played. Tactics Tim, he was only a kid, great cup semi final, Garde, Di Matteo, Bruce, you can argue he was playing with inferior players but he was also playing against inferior players and looked bang average. Pep, you can say Pep didnt buy him for the right reasons, he plays a different system etc, but you cant have it both ways, he’s now playing with superior players, but the fact is, he was much better for Villa only under Smith.
Yes our form in the 10 game run coincided with his return but i think that was just as much Smith knowing how he ticked. Making him captain on his return was a managerial masterstroke.

Smith was lost without him and i agree his record without Jack was poor, but its two sides of the same coin for player and manager. The real tragedy is for Villa, as it felt for a few months the world was our oyster with both Grealish and Smith steering the ship

What we have now, is a manager who has talented players, no tactical nous and on the face of it the double whammy of no man management skills.

When we lost at Southampton to seal DeanO’s fate, some of the players looked visibly upset. I get the feeling looking at the body language on the pitch, there will be relief when this fella bites the dust. All assumption on my part.

Last paragraph sums up the tragedy of the last 12 months - Smiths departure was felt with a lot of remorse and sadness for a really classy guy who’d brought so much belief and connectedness back to the club. Gerrards departure on the other hand will be met with genuine relief that he’s gone. It’s been an unmitigated disaster

[dave.woodhall]

He's not been a disaster, but he has been a waste of twelve months and counting.

[Meanwood Villa]

If we drop into bottom 3 I think he has been a disaster

[wince]

He's not been a disaster, but he has been a waste of twelve months and counting.

I think Gerrard has been a disaster Dave. We look worse under him, his ego is abhorrent and we are sleep walking into a relegation scrap. Not saying Smithy would have done any better but I was genuinely upset when we got rid of Deano despite knowing he took us as far as he could. Under Scouse Brow I feel like I did under line managers who couldn’t ever admit they were wrong whilst they damned their teams to hell. It has been a disaster I fear will lead to our owners accepting survival as ok. New crests stadiums etc all pointless unless we address what goes on on the pitch. Even under lambert we twatted a few teams. And he was utter shite. I just want us to start acting the Charlie big bollocks on the pitch with a never say die attitude. I want that swelling pride I felt under BFR and Brian Little. I want that moment of joy we felt with Pube head before it went sour, that feeling we didn’t fear Nottingham forest or Chelsea. Under Ego G I feel we are a busted flush. I know I’m not a regular down VP but even from
Afar I look to my team to lift me up, never surrender. In my time of 2 league cups watched with teary boyish eyes, that anticipation that despite Manure ruling the world that my club, my Aston Villa could do it, could beat the elite. I don’t want my memories of villa success being promotion from the championship. I want my Villa, my heroes of God, Dalian Atkinson, Ian Taylor, Allan Wright, Nigel Spink. I want new heroes with a leader like SGT. like Gregory. Some spark that we are the reason football exists as it does. I can’t look at Stevie G at anything as another chancer at the helm as we are happy to draw at Man City, Leeds, forest. I’m never going to be as big a fan or get to games as much as everyone else on here. But my childhood glued to the radio and as a man doing the same, I can never settle on the shit we are served every week. Gerrard you will never be one of us and damn you all to hell for the acceptance of mediocrity we have to swallow up. Just get us a decent manager and for gods sake let us be as successful as we deserve to be by getting the right person in. Because for first time ever I am losing interest in football as there is literally nothing to hope for. And I can’t let my Villa die with a whimper. So get the FO Gerrard

[eamonn]

He's not been a disaster, but he has been a waste of twelve months and counting.

Only 11. He can turn it around in his 12th.

[Grande Pablo]

A new candidate becomes free...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63248388

[gpbarr]

He's not been a disaster, but he has been a waste of twelve months and counting.

To me, that equates to a disaster. Every year that passes we fall further behind the elite, and it becomes harder and harder to compete. I have seen nothing, literally, improve during his tenure - I’d argue we have become worse as a collective under Gerrard than we were under Dean. Given the stated ambitions and stature of this club, that’s a disaster.

[N'ZMAV]

it's been a waste of a year, make that two, as the last year with Smith wasn't in the 'continuous improvement' Purslow is after

[brontebilly]

He's not been a disaster, but he has been a waste of twelve months and counting.

I think Gerrard has been a disaster Dave. We look worse under him, his ego is abhorrent and we are sleep walking into a relegation scrap. Not saying Smithy would have done any better but I was genuinely upset when we got rid of Deano despite knowing he took us as far as he could. Under Scouse Brow I feel like I did under line managers who couldn’t ever admit they were wrong whilst they damned their teams to hell. It has been a disaster I fear will lead to our owners accepting survival as ok. New crests stadiums etc all pointless unless we address what goes on on the pitch. Even under lambert we twatted a few teams. And he was utter shite. I just want us to start acting the Charlie big bollocks on the pitch with a never say die attitude. I want that swelling pride I felt under BFR and Brian Little. I want that moment of joy we felt with Pube head before it went sour, that feeling we didn’t fear Nottingham forest or Chelsea. Under Ego G I feel we are a busted flush. I know I’m not a regular down VP but even from
Afar I look to my team to lift me up, never surrender. In my time of 2 league cups watched with teary boyish eyes, that anticipation that despite Manure ruling the world that my club, my Aston Villa could do it, could beat the elite. I don’t want my memories of villa success being promotion from the championship. I want my Villa, my heroes of God, Dalian Atkinson, Ian Taylor, Allan Wright, Nigel Spink. I want new heroes with a leader like SGT. like Gregory. Some spark that we are the reason football exists as it does. I can’t look at Steven G at anything as another chancer at the helm as we are happy to draw at Man City, Leeds, forest. I’m never going to be as big a fan or get to games as much as everyone else on here. But my childhood glued to the radio and as a man doing the same, I can never settle on the shit we are served every week. Gerrard you will never be one of us and damn you all to hell for the acceptance of mediocrity we have to swallow up. Just get us a decent manager and for gods sake let us be as successful as we deserve to be by getting the right person in. Because for first time ever I am losing interest in football as there is literally nothing to hope for. And I can’t let my Villa die with a whimper. So get the FO Gerrard

Belter of a post that 👍 The club has stood still since Grealish left. It was the same with MONs walk out, he was blamed for years after that. As a former Villa manager once said we need to go again.