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Offline Smithy

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #210 on: October 07, 2024, 07:52:58 AM »
I was listening on the radio - and Clinton Morrison said it wasnt a yellow - and what he doesnt know about football isnt worth knowing.

Morrison was bound to defend the referee. He's a pathetic pundit. Can't string a decent sentence together....

I think it was more a forward defending a typical forward's challenge.  It wasn't dangerous, it wasn't designed to hurt Bailey, it was just a typical deliberate foul when a winger gets away from you towards the byline.  A yellow card all day.

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #211 on: October 07, 2024, 09:17:43 AM »
No one’s mentioned the way he stood there tapping at his watch as if to say he was adding time on whilst Emi had the ball at his feet IN PLAY. It is not time wasting if the ball is in play.

You could just as well penalise Man United players for not trying to get it off him. If the ball is in play we are entitled to hold it and ask the attacking team to come for it as it is part of our game plan.

I can maybe forgive fans for howling about it, but you’d expect a ref to understand the basics.

Are they going to start booking players for taking it into the corner next?



This.

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #212 on: October 07, 2024, 10:04:41 AM »
Was not as bad as some of the refs we have had against that lot. Bottled the Rashford decision and gave them a few free kicks for throwing themselves to the floor. The Gonadchio free kick was particularly poor.

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #213 on: October 07, 2024, 12:07:20 PM »
Don't be fooled into thinking Refs decisions with yellow cards is in any way helping the team that is consistently being fouled.

If they do not follow up with another yellow, for in most cases the same type of foul as they received the initial yellow for, then there is no point in issuing a yellow at all.

Yellow cards are supposed to be a deterrent; if you allow that same player to commit fouls in the same manner throughout the rest of the game there no longer is a deterrent.

That is the question that should be put to referees and their governing body, if you do not follow the correct applications of the disciplinary rules, verbal warning, followed by written warning, followed by dismissal, if the same behaviour is exhibited throughout all 3 stages, WHY?

Stop all this false punishment that is being completely ignored by the instigators, much like repeat offenders in real life, the punishment must make the offence untenable.

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #214 on: October 07, 2024, 12:10:17 PM »
No one’s mentioned the way he stood there tapping at his watch as if to say he was adding time on whilst Emi had the ball at his feet IN PLAY. It is not time wasting if the ball is in play.

You could just as well penalise Man United players for not trying to get it off him. If the ball is in play we are entitled to hold it and ask the attacking team to come for it as it is part of our game plan.

I can maybe forgive fans for howling about it, but you’d expect a ref to understand the basics.

Are they going to start booking players for taking it into the corner next?



This.

Yep, that pissed me off, pathetic from the ref.

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #215 on: October 07, 2024, 12:17:09 PM »
No one’s mentioned the way he stood there tapping at his watch as if to say he was adding time on whilst Emi had the ball at his feet IN PLAY. It is not time wasting if the ball is in play.

I didn't notice that!

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #216 on: October 07, 2024, 01:48:14 PM »
Don't be fooled into thinking Refs decisions with yellow cards is in any way helping the team that is consistently being fouled.

If they do not follow up with another yellow, for in most cases the same type of foul as they received the initial yellow for, then there is no point in issuing a yellow at all.

Yellow cards are supposed to be a deterrent; if you allow that same player to commit fouls in the same manner throughout the rest of the game there no longer is a deterrent.

That is the question that should be put to referees and their governing body, if you do not follow the correct applications of the disciplinary rules, verbal warning, followed by written warning, followed by dismissal, if the same behaviour is exhibited throughout all 3 stages, WHY?

Stop all this false punishment that is being completely ignored by the instigators, much like repeat offenders in real life, the punishment must make the offence untenable.

Because then there'd be no bloody referees.

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #217 on: October 07, 2024, 02:21:44 PM »
I thought he did okay yesterday.  He gave us a lot of decisions especially in the first half.  But he definitely bottled that decision.  It was right in the corner where their tosspots were housed and it was Rashford so we can't be doing that.

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #218 on: October 07, 2024, 04:55:12 PM »
I thought he did okay yesterday.  He gave us a lot of decisions especially in the first half.  But he definitely bottled that decision.  It was right in the corner where their tosspots were housed and it was Rashford so we can't be doing that.

Yeah he did ok up until he really needed to make a decision, and he didn't.

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #219 on: October 07, 2024, 06:50:43 PM »
Sky Sports Ref Watch:
INCIDENT: Marcus Rashford, already on a yellow card, fouls Leon Bailey. Should the Man Utd forward have been sent off?

Dermot Gallagher ex ref : "What saves him is Dalot, who comes and sweeps the ball up. The argument is he's not breaking a promising attack. He gets a little bit lucky because the ball is running out."

I feel the above criteria is irrelevant as it was a foul and bookable offence!
Very disappointed to hear that reasoning on Sky Sports Ref Watch.



« Last Edit: October 07, 2024, 06:52:14 PM by Footy-Vill »

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #220 on: October 07, 2024, 06:53:56 PM »
Silly defence, kicking someone's legs out from under them after they've gone past you isn't a booking if there's a defender covering. The presence of a covering defender, if anything, makes it worse because it makes thge foul entirely unneccesary.

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Re: Standard of Refereeing
« Reply #221 on: October 07, 2024, 07:26:37 PM »
Yes that might stop a red if it could have been considered a goal scoring opportunity, but it shouldn’t influence the decision to give a yellow.

 


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