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Offline Moonraker

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Re: Aston Villa -1 Jon Moss’s Liverpool - 2 Post Match Thread
« Reply #225 on: May 12, 2022, 10:04:29 AM »
Wasnt hugely impressed by the away support - not much from them until their second went in. Loved the Holte singing "We forgot that you were here..."  Thought the Arsenal fans were better, oddly enough.

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Re: Aston Villa -1 Jon Moss’s Liverpool - 2 Post Match Thread
« Reply #226 on: May 12, 2022, 10:50:03 AM »
Henry Winter was waxing lyrical about our support and the atmosphere last night at Villa Park in The Times today - sorry but I don’t have a link

The atmosphere at Villa Park is always ramped up when there's a dodgy referee.

The atmosphere always seems better under the lights. On the Liverpool forums they were complaining about us having Everton-like levels of hate for them, wondering what it was all about. Must have been surprising given that they're our "second favourite team" apparently.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/imperious-virgil-van-dijk-helps-liverpool-out-of-a-tight-spot-tr67nb2bs

I don't think Henry Winter is a Villa fan but he certainly seems to have a huge soft spot for us. Always speaks of us favourably and mentions The Holte 4 times in the article above.

Any chance of someone copying and pasting that article here? Thank you in advance :)

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Re: Aston Villa -1 Jon Moss’s Liverpool - 2 Post Match Thread
« Reply #227 on: May 12, 2022, 10:57:03 AM »
I think Spurs Would get my vote for loudest away fans this season, and that’s something I never thought I’d ever say
However they did have a fair bit to cheer

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Re: Aston Villa -1 Jon Moss’s Liverpool - 2 Post Match Thread
« Reply #228 on: May 12, 2022, 11:02:01 AM »
Any chance of someone copying and pasting that article here? Thank you in advance :)

I don't have a Times subscription but can read it simply by clicking the 'X'. Anyway...

Quote from: Henry Winter - The Times
At the end of this breathless game, the match-winner Sadio Mané briefly disappeared in a huge bear hug from a jubilant Jürgen Klopp. Steven Gerrard marched past, bearing the look of a man utterly frustrated by defeat. These two snapshots told one story of total commitment.

The idea that Klopp’s side would lose any of their fabled intensity because City held the advantage after the weekend, and should perhaps preserve their energies for the FA Cup and Champions League finals, was always nonsense. They gave absolutely everything, especially the outstanding quartet of Mané, Virgil van Dijk, Joël Matip and Trent Alexander-Arnold, knowing that they had to keep the pressure on City, who can return three points clear with victory at Molineux tonight. Alexander-Arnold embodied Liverpool’s resolute mentality, passing expertly short and long, and making a couple of important blocks.

The idea that Gerrard might give his beloved former club an easy ride was also shown up as baloney, offensive to such a professional and naively ignoring his competitive nature. With a stronger bench to call on, Gerrard would have tested Klopp even more.

From pitch to stand, Villa were so fired up for this. Everyone wants Liverpool to win the title, according to Pep Guardiola. Well, he should have heard the baying Holte End, some of whom were singing “sign on” at the visitors.

He should have seen how Gerrard’s players performed, constantly attacking, especially the former Liverpool man, Danny Ings, who was prevented from scoring only by the anticipation and interventions of Van Dijk.

Guardiola should have seen Lucas Digne and Matty Cash flying down the flanks, attempting everything in their powers to try to overcome Liverpool. He should have seen how influential Douglas Luiz was in midfield even scoring. Gerrard is building a strong team ethos here. He just needs the right recruits in the summer.

There is also an irritation within Villa Park over frequent questions about Gerrard succeeding Klopp one day. At least, Klopp’s contract extension has lessened those. Gerrard is totally focused on Villa, galvanising the whole place, and this famous old stadium shook with belief and defiance. The Holte End rarely paused in its vocal backing of the team, and frequent flag-waving.

Douglas Luiz put the hosts in front after just three minutes

“AVFC The Obsession” read one banner, “Holte End The 12th Man” another.

Well prepared and motivated by Gerrard, Villa’s players, shaped in a diamond with Philippe Coutinho at the tip, had swarmed all over Liverpool from Jon Moss’s opening whistle and the poor referee, who retires soon, struggled to keep up with the pace and intensity of the game.

Villa took a third-minute lead through Luiz, who began the move on the right, passing back to Cash. Gerrard loves his full-backs to get forward and whip in crosses, and Cash delivered here. His ball caused chaos in Liverpool’s area, carrying to John McGinn. Digne now took over, whipping another cross in.

Villa players flew towards the six-yard area. Ollie Watkins arrived first, followed by Luiz, the pair scattering Matip and Konstantinos Tsimikas. Alisson managed to save Luiz’s header but failed to control it and the Villa No 6 rammed in the rebound left-footed. Klopp stood there open-mouthed in disbelief.

Klopp’s players hit back within three minutes, again via a goal that arrived after similar chaos in the six-yard box. Alexander-Arnold, whose distribution was one of the features of the game, delivered the free kick from the right. Tyrone Mings broke off from wrestling Diogo Jota but missed the ball. Matip escaped Watkins’s clutches, and attacked the loose ball which bounced up. Jota, now free of Mings, leapt up and connected, sending the ball left to Van Dijk.

Emiliano Martínez stretched out a hand to save Van Dijk’s shot but could not prevent the ball from reaching Matip, who drove it past Mings on the line. As Klopp punched the air, and then his chest, Gerrard looked away in frustration.

The tempo eased for a while, and there was a brief moment to take in the five changes in the Liverpool line-up, leaving Mohamed Salah and Thiago Alcântara starting on the bench. Klopp trusts the understudies to maintain the intensity.

The strain on Liverpool’s players, and the sheer intensity of their opponents’ play, was confirmed when Fabinho’s hamstring gave way, making him a doubt for Saturday’s Wembley date at the very least. Jordan Henderson came on, taking the armband from Van Dijk.

Mané glances home a Díaz cross as Liverpool went level on points with Manchester City, who have a game in hand

Somehow that was the end of scoring for the half. Alisson almost gifted a chance to Villa, passing to Watkins, but recovering. Coutinho, now popping up on the left, juggled the ball past Alexander-Arnold and swapped passes with Digne before curling his right-foot shot over.

Villa are closing in on a permanent deal for the player on loan from Barcelona, and it makes obvious sense, as he is enjoying football under Gerrard, his old Liverpool team-mate, and is settled in the area. Barcelona, now living in more straitened times, cannot afford his eye-watering salary and Villa are hopeful of sorting a deal that will keep him within their wage structure.

For all his work as the half wore on, Coutinho could still have turned around behind. Villa were relieved that Naby Keita totally miskicked when ten yards out and unmarked, a waste of Alexander-Arnold’s wonderful cross.

Two substitutions arguably changed the game. Marvelous Nakamba was tiring, so Gerrard removed him for Carney Chukwuemeka and pushed Luiz back into the anchoring role after 62 minutes. Luiz was less effective deep.

Within a minute, Thiago arrived for Curtis Jones and made an impact within two minutes, stealing possession, and Mané took the move on. Jota became involved, and slid the ball left to Luis Díaz. He ran at Mings and then stabbed in a lowish cross. Mané had drifted into space, helped by poor concentration from Ezri Konsa and Digne. Mané positioned himself between the pair and steered his header past Martínez.

The former Southampton player has now scored nine times in his ten appearances against Villa.

As Mané ran towards the away fans to celebrate, over on the other side Liverpool’s substitutes, James Milner, Salah and Roberto Firmino, swamped Díaz, congratulating him on his trickery that had produced the goal.

Villa responded to the beseeching of the Holte End. Ings ran through but Alisson was quickly off his line to block and was then twice thwarted by Van Dijk. Liverpool keep going, hoping for a City slip.

Assistant should not have let play run
Peter Walton, former Premier League referee

Liverpool fans might have felt aggrieved if Aston Villa’s early opening goal by Douglas Luiz had been more costly to their Premier league title ambitions, and with some good reason too.

Ollie Watkins, right, is clearly offside as he receives the ball.

The law states that the assistant referee should keep the flag down only in very tight offside situations.

In my opinion, this was not a tight situation, therefore his flag should have gone up and Jürgen Klopp had every reason to complain.

However, as play was allowed to continue, Liverpool had ample opportunities to try to play the ball after Alisson Becker, the goalkeeper made a save.

This triggered another phase of play — which meant the original “offside” became void.

Aston Villa (4-3-1-2): E Martínez 6 — L Digne 6, T Mings 5, E Konsa 5, M Cash 7 — J McGinn 7, M Nakamba 7 (C Chukwuemeka 61min, 6), D Luiz 6 — P Coutinho 6 (E Buendía 70, 6) — D Ings 7, O Watkins 7 (B Traoré 81).

Liverpool (4-3-3): Alisson 6 — K Tsimikas 7, J Matip 7, V van Dijk 7, T Alexander-Arnold 7 — N Keïta 6, Fabinho 6 (J Henderson 30, 7) , C Jones 6 (Thiago 62, 6) — L Díaz 7 (M Salah 71), D Jota 6, S Mané 7.

Referee J Moss.

Attendance 41,919.

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Re: Aston Villa -1 Jon Moss’s Liverpool - 2 Post Match Thread
« Reply #229 on: May 12, 2022, 11:18:18 AM »
Jim Beglin, I think it was on Optus Sport. Terribly biased with the main commentator, but then checked himself and mentioned the Holte about 3 or 4 times in the space of a minute or so.

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Re: Aston Villa -1 Jon Moss’s Liverpool - 2 Post Match Thread
« Reply #230 on: May 12, 2022, 11:23:30 AM »
Wasnt hugely impressed by the away support - not much from them until their second went in. Loved the Holte singing "We forgot that you were here..."  Thought the Arsenal fans were better, oddly enough.

The phrase "sing when you're winning" applies to these fuckers more than any other

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Re: Aston Villa -1 Jon Moss’s Liverpool - 2 Post Match Thread
« Reply #231 on: May 12, 2022, 11:29:27 AM »
Henry Winter is a really good journalist.

He's also very appreciative of Villa and Villa Park.

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Re: Aston Villa -1 Jon Moss’s Liverpool - 2 Post Match Thread
« Reply #232 on: May 12, 2022, 11:49:39 AM »
Wasnt hugely impressed by the away support - not much from them until their second went in. Loved the Holte singing "We forgot that you were here..."  Thought the Arsenal fans were better, oddly enough.

The phrase "sing when you're winning" applies to these fuckers more than any other
on the TV here in Aus- they must’ve had the Liverpool fans mic’d up. You couldn’t hear our supporters.

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Re: Aston Villa -1 Jon Moss’s Liverpool - 2 Post Match Thread
« Reply #233 on: May 12, 2022, 02:28:14 PM »
You hear referees get berated at all grounds, it goes with the territory, but he must be bad if the entire 4 stands bellowed out "Stand up if you hate John Moss" and an almost just as loud rant of "Cheat, cheat" which surely has to be the worst thing anyone can label towards a ref.

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Re: Aston Villa -1 Jon Moss’s Liverpool - 2 Post Match Thread
« Reply #234 on: May 12, 2022, 05:24:33 PM »
One of the commentators said, He is retiring at the end of the season, he will not miss his trips here.

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Re: Aston Villa -1 Jon Moss’s Liverpool - 2 Post Match Thread
« Reply #235 on: May 12, 2022, 05:27:41 PM »
One of the commentators said, He is retiring at the end of the season, he will not miss his trips here.

Nor will we.

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Re: Aston Villa -1 Jon Moss’s Liverpool - 2 Post Match Thread
« Reply #236 on: May 12, 2022, 06:15:51 PM »
The thing I dont get about him is he's visibly unfit. There was an incident in the 2nd half when Liverpool broke away and the fat mess was blowing out of his arse trying to keep up. In an industry when fitness has to be a minimum requirement I find it staggering.

Still, atleast he didn't invent a new rule this time so thats something to be grateful for.

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Re: Aston Villa -1 Jon Moss’s Liverpool - 2 Post Match Thread
« Reply #237 on: May 12, 2022, 11:45:26 PM »
Thank you for pasting that article, BV! Much appreciated!!

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Re: Aston Villa -1 Jon Moss’s Liverpool - 2 Post Match Thread
« Reply #238 on: May 16, 2022, 12:34:54 AM »
Shame the 'sign on' chant still gets heard, like a boil on the arse that won't heal.

 


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