Aston Villa v Tottenham Post Match Wake.

[Meanwood Villa]

On train home without much charge so haven't read any other thoughts but thought we were unfortunate today, as daft as that sounds after a 0-4. Pinned them back pretty much the entire first half and if we'd scored could have been a different story

[Villan82]

I know it comes with the territory but my lord am I tired of feeling like crap 20 weekends out of the year.

I am a broken record on this point but I want us to start turning defeats into draws. Since we came up we are a team too easily beaten.

[LukeJames]

That Romero they have is fucking brilliant, niggly ******, breaking everything up, leaves a foot in, gets in everybodys face at every 50/50, slows the game down when they're under the cosh, makes you want to chin him. But controlled there defence, makes Dier look decent.

[manic-road]

Glad I waited until the 90th minute before leaving, the streets were almost empty around the ground then.

Poor first goal to give away and then a really good first half, shame our strikers don't have quality finishing like Son or Kane. Second half another early soft goal and our heads dropped immediately, especially poor from Konsa and McGinn today.

[Nii Lamptey]

Well that was shit all round really.

We were on top first half but wasted chance after chance, and you just knew we would rue those opportunities come full time.

Martinez could have done better when called upon - thought he was particularly poor today.
Entire defence, Matty Cash aside were garbage.
McGinn pinged a couple of nice balls across to Digne on the wing, then in the next breath, constantly failed to pass the ball 3 yards to a teammate. How many more matches will he be picked for after yet another sub par performance?
Ollie not at the races…. Couldn’t hit a barn door  with a banjo, touch all over the place, and some of his passing today was abysmal.

Digne an absolute waste of money. I see no improvement over Targett, and he’s very quickly turning into the French Darren Anderton.

I’d love the physios to have those gps vests on, because I reckon they ran more yards than the players today. Felt like there were more stoppages than actual play!? Such a frustrating game to watch.

Also, Villa Park. Shite atmosphere yet again. And nobody can mock other clubs fans after today’s exodus. I know there are traffic issues, but a half empty stadium with 20 minutes to go is a shockingly poor show. We’re better than that.

And would i trust Gerrard to play Top Trumps with Nas and Wes’s money…. Not a fucking chance. I know we bagged Coutinho, but if Digne is an indication of how he intends to ‘improve’ the squad, count me out!

Shit day. I’m off to drown my sorrows. UTV

[PaulWinch again]

Digne is a big upgrade on Targett and it’s nonsense to dismiss him.

[eamonn]

If we'd equalised, I still doubt we'd have won. It's Villa...and Spurs would have bucked their ideas up. We're just a bit shit.

[Beard82]

I'm sorry, but today showed the difference between having a top manager like Conte and having a PR stunt appointment like Gerrard.  Spurs were under the cosh for virtually the whole first half, so he changes it.  Gerrard's response?  Rabbit in the headlights.  He's got to go.

This is where I am

Where?

That today we saw the difference between a top manager and a PR stunt.

Don’t agree that he has to go - but think we have seen why maybe we could of looked a bit harder to find our next appointment

Every time we lose the two of you are out in force with the anti Gerrard stuff, its not just todays battering, its every week and whilst you are entitled to your opinions its dull as dishwater. And then you back track as soon as your challenged, God its painful!
Firstly Gerrards not go.ing to get sacked this season, just a fact. And it would be ridiculous to sack  the manager after 5 months, when we’re mid table. Whilst he cant avoid blame for the last few weeks, ultimately many of our players are mid table to lower mid table table standard. First half is the best we’ve played all season, the difference in the two sides, Watkins and Ings to Kane and Son. Thats an over simplification, but we should of been 3 up by half time. Stating the obvious and every team wants this i guess, but new centre back, new defensive midfielder, new forward and we’ll be challenging for Europe next year.

Sorry you find it boring.

I posted my inital comment without reading the he has to go bit, If I had read it properly I wouldnt have commented on it.  I dont agree he has to but I personally think he has done a pretty poor job and we saw today the difference between a good manager and one that isnt. 

I havent back tracked - but clearly Im more pragmatic the further we get from games - think Gerrard is too cos he never drops the players he calls out.

I think he is a mistake - but maybe I am too quick to criticise,

After the wins I have given him credit after the leeds game I said how encouraged I was that he seemed to have learnt quickly, but we have now lost 4 on the bounce and he doesnt seem to have any answers.

We all know hes not going to get sacked this season, but I worry were going in the wrong direction and abandoning the bigger picture.  But fair point, maybe I do go on about it too much

[colin69]

Digne is a big upgrade on Targett and it’s nonsense to dismiss him.

I’m definitely not seeing what some are seeing. Certainly not an upgrade imo.

[Nii Lamptey]

Digne is a big upgrade on Targett and it’s nonsense to dismiss him.

I’m definitely not seeing what some are seeing. Certainly not an upgrade imo.

Lightweight, injury prone, caught on halfway line during most opposition attacks. A luxury we can’t afford with our back line.

[AV82EC]

Well we played well first half and should have been 3 up. The less said about the second half the better.

Scores on the doors:

Martinez - 6 felt he could have done better on the 2nd.
Cash - 6 probably the pick of the back 4 but that’s not saying much
Konsa - 3 poor for the 1st, 2nd and 3rd goals. IMV not good enough with the ball.
Mings - 4 poor for the 2nd and seems to lack his usual drive.
Digne - 5 alright going forwards but still a bit lacking defensively
Luiz, McGinn, Ramsey - 3 all were on for a 7 after the first half but totally useless second half.
Coutinho - 6 super first half but seemed to fade badly and rightly subbed
Ings/Watkins - 4 I thought after a bright 1st half they both struggled second half. Finishing practice required for both of them.

Subs - all 5 no one really made an impact.

Gerrard - 3 as good as it was first half, his inability to change anything in the second half other than make like for like subs is a slightly worrying trend. He was slightly let down by his players today particularly Konsa and McGinn.

[john2710]

We were comfortably the better team for the first half. But still managed to gift a goal away & miss a load of chances. We've seen it all too often where teams have had to do next to fuck all to score against us. We've not upgraded the core of the defence & midfield since we came up. We will achieve nothing until we do.

I thought we were brilliant for 45 minutes. There's more right with the team than wrong. We know what's wrong, Gerrard knows what's wrong & I have no doubt he will address the spine of the team in the summer.

[Des Little]

Today was a masterclass in clinical finishing. The difference in class between the two attacking forces was as clear as you’ll ever see. WatkIngs will never be a potent pairing, and if I’m honest I would be sad to see them both go this summer. You simply cannot afford to miss the amount of clear chances we had and expect to achieve anything in this league, and so it proved.

As for the defence, what an utter car crash of a performance - I’ll excuse Cash from that, otherwise none of them covered themselves in glory, standing off their men, weak passes and clearances that are food and drink to players like Son and co.

I expect that today’s second half will prove to be a watershed in many of this team’s villa future...time will tell, but I expect to see a number of changes at Leicester.

[Cropley10]

..the little things continue to annoy me,such as Dougie taking corners and playing Watkins purely to run around a lot and fail to hold the ball up when played up to him!

No other teams seem to consede as many goals as us from a hopeful punt forward --we never score any of those!

[UK Redsox]

Phil was superb first half.

Can’t face thinking about the rest of it