The top clubs for the most have only the best players, so can easily move them on.
To nowadays where Chelsea/Liverpool/Citeh get £15m/20m for players who've barely featured in their first team. A model that we are admirably beginning to emulate (ok, we wanted to keep Chuck but we're putting a system in place where there'll be more young fellas who we make big bucks on, who we've just outgrown).
I am concerned that no club has come in with an offer for any Villa player on the not wanted list. World beaters they are not but most would be useful. It leaves us with a long list of players on decent wages that will not cotribute.
This will be a problem for all premiership clubs outside of the top four, all other clubs will have to offer over the top salarys in the attempt to break in to Europe, then get stuck with unwanted players owing to the high payments. The top clubs for the most have only the best players, so can easily move them on.
Quote from: ROBBO on August 16, 2022, 01:05:49 AMThis will be a problem for all premiership clubs outside of the top four, all other clubs will have to offer over the top salarys in the attempt to break in to Europe, then get stuck with unwanted players owing to the high payments. The top clubs for the most have only the best players, so can easily move them on.I’d suggest that we are also at the bottom of the first tier where we pay the most outside the top six. This means shifting players to the rest of the league and Europe is especially difficult because the players will be reluctant to take pay-cuts. For the foreseeable we might have to accept losing a player every year or two to the big six and letting others go for negligible fees, just to keep the squad fresh and allow headroom for the youth players to grow.
Quote from: Clampy on August 15, 2022, 01:51:44 PMQuote from: Rigadon on August 15, 2022, 01:48:48 PMQuote from: Clampy on August 15, 2022, 01:37:05 PMQuote from: Rigadon on August 15, 2022, 01:31:46 PMObviously still a little while left, but with Carlos being out for the season and Bailey's league outings so far, our squad is looking mightily like the one that was so inconsistent last season. I'm starting to wonder if the owners are looking closely at Gerrard, or it's just that their targets aren't willing / aren't allowed to come. Or something else! I don't see what Carlos being out injured has anything to do with any of that. It has a lot to do with the first sentence, don't you think? Kamara will improve us no doubt, but that won't be enough to achieve what we all hope for in my opinion. I still don't get why you brought Carlos up. If you think we need more across the board, then fair comment, maybe we do. My point was that now he’s knackered, the team is only one (very promising) player better off than we we were for large parts of last season. Don’t see it being enough to realistically hope for a wildly different outcome. But, there is still time of course.
Quote from: Rigadon on August 15, 2022, 01:48:48 PMQuote from: Clampy on August 15, 2022, 01:37:05 PMQuote from: Rigadon on August 15, 2022, 01:31:46 PMObviously still a little while left, but with Carlos being out for the season and Bailey's league outings so far, our squad is looking mightily like the one that was so inconsistent last season. I'm starting to wonder if the owners are looking closely at Gerrard, or it's just that their targets aren't willing / aren't allowed to come. Or something else! I don't see what Carlos being out injured has anything to do with any of that. It has a lot to do with the first sentence, don't you think? Kamara will improve us no doubt, but that won't be enough to achieve what we all hope for in my opinion. I still don't get why you brought Carlos up. If you think we need more across the board, then fair comment, maybe we do.
Quote from: Clampy on August 15, 2022, 01:37:05 PMQuote from: Rigadon on August 15, 2022, 01:31:46 PMObviously still a little while left, but with Carlos being out for the season and Bailey's league outings so far, our squad is looking mightily like the one that was so inconsistent last season. I'm starting to wonder if the owners are looking closely at Gerrard, or it's just that their targets aren't willing / aren't allowed to come. Or something else! I don't see what Carlos being out injured has anything to do with any of that. It has a lot to do with the first sentence, don't you think? Kamara will improve us no doubt, but that won't be enough to achieve what we all hope for in my opinion.
Quote from: Rigadon on August 15, 2022, 01:31:46 PMObviously still a little while left, but with Carlos being out for the season and Bailey's league outings so far, our squad is looking mightily like the one that was so inconsistent last season. I'm starting to wonder if the owners are looking closely at Gerrard, or it's just that their targets aren't willing / aren't allowed to come. Or something else! I don't see what Carlos being out injured has anything to do with any of that.
Obviously still a little while left, but with Carlos being out for the season and Bailey's league outings so far, our squad is looking mightily like the one that was so inconsistent last season. I'm starting to wonder if the owners are looking closely at Gerrard, or it's just that their targets aren't willing / aren't allowed to come. Or something else!
Quote from: Rigadon on August 15, 2022, 02:21:08 PMQuote from: Clampy on August 15, 2022, 01:51:44 PMQuote from: Rigadon on August 15, 2022, 01:48:48 PMQuote from: Clampy on August 15, 2022, 01:37:05 PMQuote from: Rigadon on August 15, 2022, 01:31:46 PMObviously still a little while left, but with Carlos being out for the season and Bailey's league outings so far, our squad is looking mightily like the one that was so inconsistent last season. I'm starting to wonder if the owners are looking closely at Gerrard, or it's just that their targets aren't willing / aren't allowed to come. Or something else! I don't see what Carlos being out injured has anything to do with any of that. It has a lot to do with the first sentence, don't you think? Kamara will improve us no doubt, but that won't be enough to achieve what we all hope for in my opinion. I still don't get why you brought Carlos up. If you think we need more across the board, then fair comment, maybe we do. My point was that now he’s knackered, the team is only one (very promising) player better off than we we were for large parts of last season. Don’t see it being enough to realistically hope for a wildly different outcome. But, there is still time of course. Well Gerrard apparently had us 9th from the time he arrived... So improvement to get to 8th should be possible with the one position we all wanted filled with Kamara.Anyone else should see us push further on.
Quote from: Drummond on August 16, 2022, 09:48:25 AMQuote from: Rigadon on August 15, 2022, 02:21:08 PMQuote from: Clampy on August 15, 2022, 01:51:44 PMQuote from: Rigadon on August 15, 2022, 01:48:48 PMQuote from: Clampy on August 15, 2022, 01:37:05 PMQuote from: Rigadon on August 15, 2022, 01:31:46 PMObviously still a little while left, but with Carlos being out for the season and Bailey's league outings so far, our squad is looking mightily like the one that was so inconsistent last season. I'm starting to wonder if the owners are looking closely at Gerrard, or it's just that their targets aren't willing / aren't allowed to come. Or something else! I don't see what Carlos being out injured has anything to do with any of that. It has a lot to do with the first sentence, don't you think? Kamara will improve us no doubt, but that won't be enough to achieve what we all hope for in my opinion. I still don't get why you brought Carlos up. If you think we need more across the board, then fair comment, maybe we do. My point was that now he’s knackered, the team is only one (very promising) player better off than we we were for large parts of last season. Don’t see it being enough to realistically hope for a wildly different outcome. But, there is still time of course. Well Gerrard apparently had us 9th from the time he arrived... So improvement to get to 8th should be possible with the one position we all wanted filled with Kamara.Anyone else should see us push further on.That would only be true if other teams didn't sign players to strengthen.