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Offline sid1964

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2865 on: July 04, 2022, 07:54:07 AM »
I would assume that we have to have players leave us before anymore new signings arrive

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2866 on: July 04, 2022, 08:08:12 AM »
I wonder if they are waiting to see how the first few weeks of pre-season go before making decisions on the next priorities

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2867 on: July 04, 2022, 09:05:55 AM »
I wonder if they are waiting to see how the first few weeks of pre-season go before making decisions on the next priorities

We have a full squad, the only gap right now is cover at left back and we have an offer on the table for Young which fills that. More players will come in but only when people get sold. I think we all know that some of the current squad are going but it makes sense to use this time to make enquiries and set things up rather than pushing through signings which risk us overloading the squad if sales don't happen.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2868 on: July 04, 2022, 09:39:41 AM »
I would expect a few out this week as they will not want to take dead wood to Australia.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2869 on: July 04, 2022, 09:58:02 AM »
I wonder how hard it is to shift some of them like El Ghazi whose stock must have plummeted since his loan move to Everton.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2870 on: July 04, 2022, 10:41:31 AM »
I would imagine if we want to get rid of El Ghazi etc.. we would have to pay a large amount of his wages to the club that may want to buy him

For years we have overpaid players far more than they are worth and therefore generally the "squad" players only seem to leave us at the end of their contracts (there wont be many clubs who can afford to match the salaries that we pay)

Ings for example will only leave us at the end of his contract no other club is going to pay him 120k a week the same as what he is being paid by us.

At his age he will know that we are his final big pay day, so he probably wont worry if we bring in another striker and he only starts a few games each season

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2871 on: July 04, 2022, 10:52:39 AM »
I wonder how hard it is to shift some of them like El Ghazi whose stock must have plummeted since his loan move to Everton.

I feel sorry for him.

He's annoyingly inconsistent, mostly because you see glimpses of what he is capable of.

He is a decent player, though, and scored some important goals for us in his time here.

He got royally fucked around by Everton, I hope he gets a decent move.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2872 on: July 04, 2022, 11:02:11 AM »
I wonder how hard it is to shift some of them like El Ghazi whose stock must have plummeted since his loan move to Everton.

I feel sorry for him.

He's annoyingly inconsistent, mostly because you see glimpses of what he is capable of.

He is a decent player, though, and scored some important goals for us in his time here.

He got royally fucked around by Everton, I hope he gets a decent move.
The Everton move was a disaster for him, ended up playing less than he would've done staying at Villa.  Hope he gets a decent move this summer.  He's not consistent enough for a club trying to break in to that top 6/8 bracket, but think he's a pretty decent player who can do a job in the Premier League (albeit closer to the bottom than the top).

Be a brilliant signing for someone like Norwich or another club likely to make the move up from the Championship this season.  He'd look amazing in the Championship, and is good enough that you'd not necessarily be looking to replace him first or even second season up.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2873 on: July 04, 2022, 11:06:36 AM »
I don't think the Everton thing will go too much against him as he didn't get a chance to bomb really and his agent will just argue the club was in turmoil and he never got the chance to show what he could do.

I think the whole thing about a player not moving on if he can't get the same salary depends heavily on the player. You can stay and just pick up your money for a few years and earn more than you would otherwise, but you'll find your earning ability after that to plummet.

I'd like to think El Ghazi with another 8 seasons in him would rather be playing for someone and proving his worth and earning good money for that period of time rather than seeing out his contract to get as much as possible from us. He's not going to be on mega-money with us anyway and there are quite a few clubs in the Championship or lower Premier League who would take a look at him.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2874 on: July 04, 2022, 11:21:22 AM »
I like him. Along with Trez, we've a lot to be grateful for.

Let's hope he gets a good move.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2875 on: July 04, 2022, 11:24:04 AM »
I like him a lot too, but what I think we're seeing is that post pandemic, outside of the Premier League and the Champions League clubs there's not a lot of money about.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2876 on: July 04, 2022, 11:30:04 AM »
Given we probably wouldn't be asking for a huge fee for him, you'd think somebody like Bournemouth or Forest would probably get a tune out of him. Even someone like Southampton.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2877 on: July 04, 2022, 12:02:51 PM »
El Ghazi is a bottom half of the premier league player who will get offers and I don't think his wages will be pricing him out of a move (and more broadly I disagree with almost everything sid put in that post, it was true a few years back but doesn't reflect how we've operated under NSWE).

What is going against him, and a lot of other players in similar circumstances, is that the premier league in general has inflated wages far faster than any other league. That means the pool of clubs willing to take average players from here is getting smaller every year unless the players take a big pay cut or clubs wipe out the transfer fees or sub the wages. It's not a Villa thing, it's an English football thing (because a lot of the championship clubs are struggling in the same way). Without that I think he'd do well in German football and would be a top signing for one of the bigger dutch clubs.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2878 on: July 04, 2022, 12:37:01 PM »
El Ghazi is a bottom half of the premier league player who will get offers and I don't think his wages will be pricing him out of a move (and more broadly I disagree with almost everything sid put in that post, it was true a few years back but doesn't reflect how we've operated under NSWE).

What is going against him, and a lot of other players in similar circumstances, is that the premier league in general has inflated wages far faster than any other league. That means the pool of clubs willing to take average players from here is getting smaller every year unless the players take a big pay cut or clubs wipe out the transfer fees or sub the wages. It's not a Villa thing, it's an English football thing (because a lot of the championship clubs are struggling in the same way). Without that I think he'd do well in German football and would be a top signing for one of the bigger dutch clubs.
Agree with all of this.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #2879 on: July 04, 2022, 01:33:45 PM »
It shows how below par his all round game is sadly, that a player who the season before last got 10 goals (the same as Sterling, Pepe, Cavani and Antonio) now can't get even get into a really poor Everton side.

 


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