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Offline Risso

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #960 on: May 19, 2022, 10:03:08 AM »
Saw a comment a few weeks ago from a Spanish football expert on Sky who said that "Suarez, cannot run more than 10 yards, although if you give him a chance in the penalty area to score he is still one of the best"

It will be interesting to see how he does for us next season, not sure either Watkins or Ings will be happy about not starting a game when Suarez is picked ahead of them.

Christ. I know you're just about the most miserable person on here, but do you really need to invent fictitious scenarios to make yourself feel even worse?

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #961 on: May 19, 2022, 10:13:25 AM »
I think Suarez would be a good signing, still a great player and would certainly raise the clubs profile - bit like when Chelsea signed an aging Ruud Gullit

Also happy with the link to Tarkowski, good player and no fee.

Not sure I would like us to pay 60m for Phillips, although he is a good player it seems a bit steep.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #962 on: May 19, 2022, 10:27:04 AM »
Philips is an excellent player.  He is used to the single DM role with a great range of passing.  Great at taking the ball under pressure and moving it on, it will give us another outball rather than relying on Mings down the left all the time.

Defensively his is quick and astute - picking up loose balls and making interceptions to snuff out attacks before they begin and strong against the counter attack which Leeds need to defend against a lot because of the way they play.  But also solid and strong in the tackle.  The only thing he lacks really is height which is something we could use.  But otherwise he seems tailor made for the way we play and a more progressive player than some of the other 'pure' DMs we've been linked with.

60m?  I'd bite their hands off.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #963 on: May 19, 2022, 10:40:57 AM »
Doesn't he also seem to suffer from more long-term injuries than would be ideal?

Pretty sure he's been out for half a season at least two or three times and he's only 26.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #964 on: May 19, 2022, 10:51:12 AM »
Doesn't he also seem to suffer from more long-term injuries than would be ideal?

Pretty sure he's been out for half a season at least two or three times and he's only 26.

Indeed. Also, if he's such a good defensive midfielder, then I'm a bit surprised that Leeds are quite as bad defensively as they are. I mean, I know it's not all his fault, but you'd least expect a bit of solidity. There may be stats showing they're much better with him in the team I guess though, dunno. Lastly, I've only ever seen him play really for England, in the sorts of games where even Slabhead looks vaguely competent.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #965 on: May 19, 2022, 10:55:49 AM »
Doesn't he also seem to suffer from more long-term injuries than would be ideal?

Pretty sure he's been out for half a season at least two or three times and he's only 26.

I seem to remember Mings having injury issues before he came to us. I think Philips would be the perfect fit we might have to battle other clubs higher in the league but we do have the extra draw these days.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #966 on: May 19, 2022, 01:00:09 PM »
Philips is an excellent player.  He is used to the single DM role with a great range of passing.  Great at taking the ball under pressure and moving it on, it will give us another outball rather than relying on Mings down the left all the time.

Defensively his is quick and astute - picking up loose balls and making interceptions to snuff out attacks before they begin and strong against the counter attack which Leeds need to defend against a lot because of the way they play.  But also solid and strong in the tackle.  The only thing he lacks really is height which is something we could use.  But otherwise he seems tailor made for the way we play and a more progressive player than some of the other 'pure' DMs we've been linked with.

60m?  I'd bite their hands off.

I agree. In a world where Jack The Rat went for 100M, Phillips (on a long contract with no release clause) is going to cost at least half that amount.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #967 on: May 19, 2022, 01:38:17 PM »
Percy reporting that plans were in place before the Konsa injury to bring in a central defender, and that  James Tarkowski (Burnley, out of contract in the summer) gas been discussed.

Think he will struggle badly, Michael Keane style, when he moves away from a team that sets up it's defensive line at the 18 yard box. Avoid.

I dunno, I'd have gone for 'snog'.

No.  Not with those ears.

Exactly. He's quite handsome but his FA Cup handles detract, maybe his uncle is Lineker.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #968 on: May 19, 2022, 01:40:54 PM »
Phillips has had a dreadful season. Not the only English player post the Euros to struggle but form and fitness have been really poor. I watched some of their game v Man City recently and he was completely anonymous. Provided little or no cover to their defence either.

Obviously is a decent player, used to have great battles with Grealish in the championship and has done well with England at times. Man United have a glaring hole at CM so it's his most likely destination if Leeds go down.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #969 on: May 19, 2022, 01:44:45 PM »
I'm not so sure, I actually don't think he's very good as a single DM, with his best performances for England being alongside Rice and his best performances for Leeds being with Dallas, Koch or Klich next to him.

I think he'd be pretty similar to Luiz for us if we tried to play him as our only DM for an entire season, in that it'd look like something was missing and we'd see too many attacks coming through the middle of our defence.

Add on our need for some height alongside his cost and, whilst he's a good player, it's a no from me unless it's alongside another player coming in who can pair with him.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #970 on: May 19, 2022, 02:40:52 PM »
I'm not so sure, I actually don't think he's very good as a single DM, with his best performances for England being alongside Rice and his best performances for Leeds being with Dallas, Koch or Klich next to him.

I think he'd be pretty similar to Luiz for us if we tried to play him as our only DM for an entire season, in that it'd look like something was missing and we'd see too many attacks coming through the middle of our defence.

Add on our need for some height alongside his cost and, whilst he's a good player, it's a no from me unless it's alongside another player coming in who can pair with him.
Like a Douglas Luiz who can actually defend and take and pass the ball under pressure you mean?  Sounds ok to me.

I haven't looked at the stats so could be wrong, but I'd definitely say Leeds played more with a single DM from 19 to 21 than they did with a double pivot.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #971 on: May 19, 2022, 02:54:44 PM »
Phillips has had a dreadful season. Not the only English player post the Euros to struggle but form and fitness have been really poor. I watched some of their game v Man City recently and he was completely anonymous. Provided little or no cover to their defence either.

Obviously is a decent player, used to have great battles with Grealish in the championship and has done well with England at times. Man United have a glaring hole at CM so it's his most likely destination if Leeds go down.

I think he's already said he would never sign for The Plastics. Liverpool will go for Bellingham, Man City don't need him (yes, I know), then you have the london lot; Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs. I just can't see him wanting to live down there. Newcastle seem the most likely, he stays up north, close to home.

I'd love him at Villa Park. I wanted him the summer we got promoted and haven't changed my mind. He's a cracking player, a real humble lad, just the type we've desperately needed for years.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #972 on: May 19, 2022, 03:01:19 PM »
I don't see what all the fuss is with Phillips, he's okay but nothing more than that.  We need an enforcer, and he's certainly not that.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #973 on: May 19, 2022, 05:09:46 PM »
Phillips is a great player, and one of the top DMs in the league.  He's just surrounded by mediocrity, much like Grealish was in our first year back in the league.

If we are committed to playing a formation that requires a specialist DM, and he's available, I'd hope we'd be in for him.  But I suspect we'd be competing against sides offering European football, either here or abroad - the Euros did wonders for his profile on the continent.

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Re: Summer 2022 Transfer Thread
« Reply #974 on: May 19, 2022, 05:16:52 PM »
Phillips has had a dreadful season. Not the only English player post the Euros to struggle but form and fitness have been really poor. I watched some of their game v Man City recently and he was completely anonymous. Provided little or no cover to their defence either.

Obviously is a decent player, used to have great battles with Grealish in the championship and has done well with England at times. Man United have a glaring hole at CM so it's his most likely destination if Leeds go down.

I think he's already said he would never sign for The Plastics. Liverpool will go for Bellingham, Man City don't need him (yes, I know), then you have the london lot; Chelsea, Arsenal and Spurs. I just can't see him wanting to live down there. Newcastle seem the most likely, he stays up north, close to home.

I'd love him at Villa Park. I wanted him the summer we got promoted and haven't changed my mind. He's a cracking player, a real humble lad, just the type we've desperately needed for years.

Man City do need someone like him. Fernandinho and Gundogan are going in the summer.

 


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