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Offline VillaTim

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Re: Tim Iroegbunam
« Reply #465 on: March 02, 2024, 10:07:26 PM »
Thought it was 3 fouls and as you all seem to be adamant the ref had a personal vendetta against us it was surprising a card wasn’t given to him imo.
yeah he gave 3 fouls away very quickly , was getting too tight to his man all the time . A proper rabbit in the headlights today

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Re: Tim Iroegbunam
« Reply #466 on: March 02, 2024, 10:08:52 PM »
Thought it was 3 fouls and as you all seem to be adamant the ref had a personal vendetta against us it was surprising a card wasn’t given to him imo.
yeah he gave 3 fouls away very quickly , was getting too tight to his man all the time . A proper rabbit in the headlights today

No he gave away 2 fouls, it's not hard to check.

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Re: Tim Iroegbunam
« Reply #467 on: March 02, 2024, 10:20:40 PM »
Giving out foolish free kicks. Emery will be furious, since the set piece was their biggest threat. Let's be honest: he struggled to get into the game and was uninspiring. Not a bad player, just raw and a peek of how he isn't quite ready for a start, despite my and many others' high expectations.

Today he just looked overawed or a loss of pace of the game, and of course it was just a role of the bench today, but he's no where near clever today doing tactical fouls,  they were dumb ones or ones where he was outskilled. So I think people are being very biassed by saying he was being tactical.
He looked like a teenager in man's game ,he's 20 now and still learning but needs to wise up. I still carry hopes.
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I didn't say tactical, I said they're the sort of fouls that break up play that lots of clubs use in those circumstances. I think Tim was put on to play his game and get in peoples faces to stop them having time to spray the ball out to the wings, which he did. It's not about whethger he played well or not, it's that we didn't have that physical presence in there and adding it gave us back some of the control we'd been missing (after he took a few minutes to get up to speed with a game that had become quite frenetic.

Come off this it doesn't make sense that you're talking as if someone else other than Emery is manager.
How can an inexperienced 20 year old be the player to bring back control ? He's only just learning to play Emerys football.
He was brought on due to Rogers yellow card.
It was an initially 3 subbed raised to four.
I also hardly think Emery is asking players to get in peoples faces.

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Re: Tim Iroegbunam
« Reply #468 on: March 02, 2024, 10:34:39 PM »
Giving out foolish free kicks. Emery will be furious, since the set piece was their biggest threat. Let's be honest: he struggled to get into the game and was uninspiring. Not a bad player, just raw and a peek of how he isn't quite ready for a start, despite my and many others' high expectations.

Today he just looked overawed or a loss of pace of the game, and of course it was just a role of the bench today, but he's no where near clever today doing tactical fouls,  they were dumb ones or ones where he was outskilled. So I think people are being very biassed by saying he was being tactical.
He looked like a teenager in man's game ,he's 20 now and still learning but needs to wise up. I still carry hopes.
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I didn't say tactical, I said they're the sort of fouls that break up play that lots of clubs use in those circumstances. I think Tim was put on to play his game and get in peoples faces to stop them having time to spray the ball out to the wings, which he did. It's not about whethger he played well or not, it's that we didn't have that physical presence in there and adding it gave us back some of the control we'd been missing (after he took a few minutes to get up to speed with a game that had become quite frenetic.

Come off this it doesn't make sense that you're talking as if someone else other than Emery is manager.
How can an inexperienced 20 year old be the player to bring back control ? He's only just learning to play Emerys football.
He was brought on due to Rogers yellow card.
It was an initially 3 subbed raised to four.
I also hardly think Emery is asking players to get in peoples faces.

Stop acting like you know everything about Emery, most of your predictions turn out to be utter bullshit and you regularly claim he'll be angry about things when there is no evidence of it. Kamara regularly does a job of getting tight to players and taking them out of the game, for someone who claims to be so knowledgable it's telling how you've completely missed that.

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Re: Tim Iroegbunam
« Reply #469 on: March 02, 2024, 10:34:49 PM »
Was rash today. One free kick was on the edge of our own box so no big deal but then a minute later he gave away one 30 yards out which wasn't clever given the issues Luton were causing us from set pieces.

He'll need to learn that.

If Ramsey is out it will be interesting to see how we set up v Spurs. Diaby seems probable after his fantastic cross but UE hasn't played two attackers alongside Ollie against a top level team for quite a while so maybe we'll bring Tim in from the start and shift SJM out wide.

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Re: Tim Iroegbunam
« Reply #470 on: March 02, 2024, 10:51:11 PM »
Showed today clearly why Emery isn't starting him in EPL games.

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Re: Tim Iroegbunam
« Reply #471 on: March 20, 2024, 02:33:15 PM »
So do we reckon Tim will get any starts between now and the end of the season? With McGinn out on Sunday, it was fairly telling that Emery didn't trust Iroegbunam enough yet.

I know he needs a run of starts before he can be judged but we're not in a position to let him make mistakes as he establishes himself. Not writing him off at all but I haven't seen too much in his cameos to date to suggest he can perform at this level.

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Re: Tim Iroegbunam
« Reply #472 on: March 20, 2024, 02:49:51 PM »
So do we reckon Tim will get any starts between now and the end of the season? With McGinn out on Sunday, it was fairly telling that Emery didn't trust Iroegbunam enough yet.

I know he needs a run of starts before he can be judged but we're not in a position to let him make mistakes as he establishes himself. Not writing him off at all but I haven't seen too much in his cameos to date to suggest he can perform at this level.

I can't see him starting at all, injuries permitting. He's played barely any football at this level and hasn't played regular first team football since QPR and that was cute short by injuries.
More of the same I'd reckon, getting 10-15 mins here and there towards the end of matches whilst he tries to establish himself.

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Re: Tim Iroegbunam
« Reply #473 on: March 20, 2024, 02:50:51 PM »
I reckon he will get a start or two at some point.

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Re: Tim Iroegbunam
« Reply #474 on: March 20, 2024, 03:08:11 PM »
He's not getting in front of Tielemans anytime soon , so unless there is more injuries or Luiz gets suspended etc he won't get a start.

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Re: Tim Iroegbunam
« Reply #475 on: March 20, 2024, 04:40:22 PM »
Considering he plays in a completely different position to Tielemans, it's a bit of a no brainer. His problem is Unai obviously doesn't trust him to play the defensive midfield role. I expect he'll be sold in the summer.

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Re: Tim Iroegbunam
« Reply #476 on: March 20, 2024, 09:05:33 PM »
Considering he plays in a completely different position to Tielemans, it's a bit of a no brainer. His problem is Unai obviously doesn't trust him to play the defensive midfield role. I expect he'll be sold in the summer.

Yep, agree completely. Don't think Unai thinks much of him to be honest. If he's not going to get a chance with our current midfield options, he never is.

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Re: Tim Iroegbunam
« Reply #477 on: March 20, 2024, 10:10:14 PM »
The kid is just 20 year's old and Unai has already said he want's to work with him.  He wouldn't have started him away at Ajax otherwise or let Donk go. Think we'll see more of him next season personally.

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Re: Tim Iroegbunam
« Reply #478 on: March 20, 2024, 10:24:09 PM »
The kid is just 20 year's old and Unai has already said he want's to work with him.  He wouldn't have started him away at Ajax otherwise or let Donk go. Think we'll see more of him next season personally.


I think there's a degree of truth in what Risso said, this is absolutely his golden chance, and I think Unai's talking him up in press conferences has been part of an attempt to gee him up to grab the opportunity.

It is only going to get tougher going forward.

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Re: Tim Iroegbunam
« Reply #479 on: March 21, 2024, 06:54:16 AM »
The kid is just 20 year's old and Unai has already said he want's to work with him.  He wouldn't have started him away at Ajax otherwise or let Donk go. Think we'll see more of him next season personally.

I think there's a degree of truth in what Clampy says. Unless Donk is earning shitloads, and we needed to get some of his wages off our books, Emery has sorry of thrown his hat in on Tim and said ' Go grab the opportunity'. He hasn't been revelatory ... but he hasn't been rubbish.
Let's wait and see.

 


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