I know what you both mean, but I like him and think he's good to keep around. We need a Plan B and he'd be a great part of it. Especially with the 5 sub thing. It means you can change the full forward unit in one go. Watkins, Coutinho and Buendia off, Ings, Bailey and Traore on (as an example).
Quote from: Drummond on July 04, 2022, 11:26:45 AMI know what you both mean, but I like him and think he's good to keep around. We need a Plan B and he'd be a great part of it. Especially with the 5 sub thing. It means you can change the full forward unit in one go. Watkins, Coutinho and Buendia off, Ings, Bailey and Traore on (as an example).I do like him and won't be upset if he does stay (and I think he had a better season than he's given credit for) but if Gerrard wants to repalce him with someone that fits our playstyle better then I can see his point and I think we might be a more balanced squad for it, if the replacement is decent.
Quote from: paul_e on July 04, 2022, 11:48:00 AMQuote from: Drummond on July 04, 2022, 11:26:45 AMI know what you both mean, but I like him and think he's good to keep around. We need a Plan B and he'd be a great part of it. Especially with the 5 sub thing. It means you can change the full forward unit in one go. Watkins, Coutinho and Buendia off, Ings, Bailey and Traore on (as an example).I do like him and won't be upset if he does stay (and I think he had a better season than he's given credit for) but if Gerrard wants to repalce him with someone that fits our playstyle better then I can see his point and I think we might be a more balanced squad for it, if the replacement is decent.He's also one of the top earners, which is difficult to justify for a bit part impact sub.
Quote from: LeeB on July 04, 2022, 11:49:43 AMQuote from: paul_e on July 04, 2022, 11:48:00 AMQuote from: Drummond on July 04, 2022, 11:26:45 AMI know what you both mean, but I like him and think he's good to keep around. We need a Plan B and he'd be a great part of it. Especially with the 5 sub thing. It means you can change the full forward unit in one go. Watkins, Coutinho and Buendia off, Ings, Bailey and Traore on (as an example).I do like him and won't be upset if he does stay (and I think he had a better season than he's given credit for) but if Gerrard wants to repalce him with someone that fits our playstyle better then I can see his point and I think we might be a more balanced squad for it, if the replacement is decent.He's also one of the top earners, which is difficult to justify for a bit part impact sub.Unless he keeps scoring and making an impact as a bit-part impact sub.
Quote from: Drummond on July 04, 2022, 12:02:29 PMQuote from: LeeB on July 04, 2022, 11:49:43 AMQuote from: paul_e on July 04, 2022, 11:48:00 AMQuote from: Drummond on July 04, 2022, 11:26:45 AMI know what you both mean, but I like him and think he's good to keep around. We need a Plan B and he'd be a great part of it. Especially with the 5 sub thing. It means you can change the full forward unit in one go. Watkins, Coutinho and Buendia off, Ings, Bailey and Traore on (as an example).I do like him and won't be upset if he does stay (and I think he had a better season than he's given credit for) but if Gerrard wants to repalce him with someone that fits our playstyle better then I can see his point and I think we might be a more balanced squad for it, if the replacement is decent.He's also one of the top earners, which is difficult to justify for a bit part impact sub.Unless he keeps scoring and making an impact as a bit-part impact sub.But if we sold him and bought a better player, we'd have less need for a bit part impact sub
We don't necessarily need an identikit replacement for Ollie, Ings offers a lot in his own right. I think he is a lot more versatile than people give him credit for. Yes he's excellent at dropping deep and linking up play, but in my opinion he can lead the line in a three if that's how Gerrard wants to play him. He's not quite as energetic or quick as Watkins, but he still works very hard. I think he is a very clever player and his quickness of thought and skill level on the ball could make him ideal for forming a great relationship with Coutihno, whereas Ollie feels a bit more of a blunt instrument to me and not so much on his wavelength. The strength of his link up play with 10's pushing past him could be a real asset. Either way, I feel it's unlikely we'll find better this window and I don't want us to go into the season under staffed up front again, so I hope he stays. I still think Watkins will kick on a bit this year as well and I'd back them both to have a better season.
I think for Ings to be a success we really need Bailey to come good. We need his pace to stretch teams, as otherwise Coutinho/Buendia/Ings is all a bit on the slow side. Lots of skill, but a good team will just sit back and try to soak up their through balls.
Could the vote include the option for neither?