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Re: The January New Manager Warchest Transfer Thread
« Reply #345 on: November 30, 2021, 11:21:03 AM »
Yeah i'd rather keep Hause and look for another guy than keep Tuanzebe. I think they'd bite our hand off if we wanted him, but if you have to go out on loan because Bailly, Lindelöf and Slabhead are ahead of you, i'm not convinced. The days of Man U having a youth squad full of potential quality appear over.
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Re: The January New Manager Warchest Transfer Thread
« Reply #346 on: November 30, 2021, 11:25:58 AM »
I think Kessler will be the right back to challenge Cash and I'd be happy with that.  I'd be dissapointed if we let Traore go, I love watching him and think he will contribute when fit.

It's a DM and a left back for me, although Nakamba and Targett look rejuvinated we still need the depth.

Don't discount Guilbert either, he's currently the best right back in france and playing well enough to be exactly the sort of player you'd target to add squad depth/competition. I have no idea why him and Smith fell out but the 'new broom' effect hould see him at least get a chance.

Otherwise, if Hause is happy to stay I'd keep him, he's not good enough to be a starter for a top half team but if he's ok with the role he has he's never really let us down when we've needed him.

I can't see Guilbert wanting to go through it again.

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Re: The January New Manager Warchest Transfer Thread
« Reply #347 on: November 30, 2021, 11:35:59 AM »
I think Kessler will be the right back to challenge Cash and I'd be happy with that.  I'd be dissapointed if we let Traore go, I love watching him and think he will contribute when fit.

It's a DM and a left back for me, although Nakamba and Targett look rejuvinated we still need the depth.

Don't discount Guilbert either, he's currently the best right back in france and playing well enough to be exactly the sort of player you'd target to add squad depth/competition. I have no idea why him and Smith fell out but the 'new broom' effect hould see him at least get a chance.

Otherwise, if Hause is happy to stay I'd keep him, he's not good enough to be a starter for a top half team but if he's ok with the role he has he's never really let us down when we've needed him.

I can't see Guilbert wanting to go through it again.

Hence I put don't discount him rather than outright saying he's the competition, it will clearly depend on whether he wants to come back.

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Re: The January New Manager Warchest Transfer Thread
« Reply #348 on: November 30, 2021, 11:55:48 AM »
Kessler-Hayden and Bogarde might well be in contention for defensive roles next season ...

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Re: The January New Manager Warchest Transfer Thread
« Reply #349 on: November 30, 2021, 12:53:31 PM »
Bogarde will probably go out on loan before he comes into contention. He's probably the reason why we brought Tuanzebe in though, just to give Bogarde a little longer to develop.

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Re: The January New Manager Warchest Transfer Thread
« Reply #350 on: November 30, 2021, 01:00:44 PM »
I really rate Bogarde but I think he's at least 18 months away from being ready, makes a few too many mistakes right now.

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Re: The January New Manager Warchest Transfer Thread
« Reply #351 on: November 30, 2021, 07:29:31 PM »
I think Kessler will be the right back to challenge Cash and I'd be happy with that.  I'd be dissapointed if we let Traore go, I love watching him and think he will contribute when fit.

It's a DM and a left back for me, although Nakamba and Targett look rejuvinated we still need the depth.

Don't discount Guilbert either, he's currently the best right back in france and playing well enough to be exactly the sort of player you'd target to add squad depth/competition. I have no idea why him and Smith fell out but the 'new broom' effect hould see him at least get a chance.

Otherwise, if Hause is happy to stay I'd keep him, he's not good enough to be a starter for a top half team but if he's ok with the role he has he's never really let us down when we've needed him.

I can't see Guilbert wanting to go through it again.

Hence I put don't discount him rather than outright saying he's the competition, it will clearly depend on whether he wants to come back.

Who knows if we'll recall him in Jan. In the summer he'll have just one year left on his deal so will surely want to go back to France and given he's doing o.k again there you'd think someone could sign him for 3-4m.

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Re: The January New Manager Warchest Transfer Thread
« Reply #352 on: November 30, 2021, 07:31:27 PM »
Kessler-Hayden and Bogarde might well be in contention for defensive roles next season ...

Kesler is still very young. Good he's doing well at Swindon but would personally like to see him getting top end league 1 loan/bottom half championship loan next season.

If people think these young guys are properly ready to be in first team squad at this level they should be ready to play for a Sunderland or Cardiff imo.

Case of Louie Barry sometimes shows it can be complicated for a promising young player. Loads of us wanted to see him getting some prem minutes last season after the Liverpool goal but barely played at all for Ipswich so far.

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Re: The January New Manager Warchest Transfer Thread
« Reply #353 on: December 01, 2021, 12:11:56 AM »
Guilbert is currently the best right-back in Ligue 1...really? Last time I checked he seemed to be marking time there, often a sub or being subbed.

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Re: The January New Manager Warchest Transfer Thread
« Reply #354 on: December 01, 2021, 07:34:52 AM »
I think kesler could make it definitely

Barry - the loan move hasbeen a disaster. But archer didnt do very well on loan and look how impressive he looks

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Re: The January New Manager Warchest Transfer Thread
« Reply #355 on: December 01, 2021, 07:37:38 AM »
Kessler-Hayden and Bogarde might well be in contention for defensive roles next season ...

Kesler is still very young. Good he's doing well at Swindon but would personally like to see him getting top end league 1 loan/bottom half championship loan next season.

If people think these young guys are properly ready to be in first team squad at this level they should be ready to play for a Sunderland or Cardiff imo.

Case of Louie Barry sometimes shows it can be complicated for a promising young player. Loads of us wanted to see him getting some prem minutes last season after the Liverpool goal but barely played at all for Ipswich so far.

I think its the whole experience rather than how they do that matters imo. Playing with guys who will never go for massive amounts of money and need to do well to get that next contract for their livelihood must be an eye-opener in terms of a reality check so I reckon the Ipswich move will benefit Barry long term.  Also If you hit a rough patch of form or can't get in the team on loan then to a certain extent you can learn from it and "reset" your confidence when you return. We've seen it with kids before here where they break into the first team as the next "big thing" and then plateau and fade and part of that must be that it's easier to come back from gifting a goal to Rotherham than buggering up at Villa Park with it being shown on MOTD that evening. If the likes of Albrighton had gone on loan and had a hard time of it on loan when he was younger then maybe he wouldn't have needed a complete "reset" at Leicester to find his feet.

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Re: The January New Manager Warchest Transfer Thread
« Reply #356 on: December 01, 2021, 07:41:12 AM »
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Think in any case, Guilbert was a player we brought whilst we were a Championship team & were anticipating another season there. Not to say that you should knock players just because of when they joined the club (SJM being a prime example), but we are shopping in a very different market now than when we signed him.

Just think multiple things have gone against Freddy. He'd have looked class in the Championship, which mightve helped him settle in better. Then he's come in to the team along with a dozen other new players so there's maybe been less time/resources to have someone put an arm round his shoulder. COVID has no doubt made life living in another country more difficult, especially if things aren't going your way to begin with. Ligue 1 has crashed financially so he can't even get a permanent move back to France.

He'll be off either this summer or next depending on whether or not we can find a buyer. Don't expect him to feature for us, though. Cheap punt that might've paid off in different circumstances.

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Re: The January New Manager Warchest Transfer Thread
« Reply #357 on: December 01, 2021, 07:46:07 AM »
Guilbert is currently the best right-back in Ligue 1...really? Last time I checked he seemed to be marking time there, often a sub or being subbed.

He's played all 90 minutes of their last 7 games according to Soccerbase.

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Re: The January New Manager Warchest Transfer Thread
« Reply #358 on: December 01, 2021, 10:04:24 AM »
I'm just going on what I've been told but it is backed up by whoscored who have him in the team of the season for Ligue 1.

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Re: The January New Manager Warchest Transfer Thread
« Reply #359 on: December 01, 2021, 10:09:06 AM »
Fair enough, I hadn't checked in a while. Good to know that he isn't drifting.

I still think Cash needs specialist competition on the right, he's the only one without a direct replacement at the moment and he's not good enough to assume he's an automatic pick.

 


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