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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2385 on: November 09, 2021, 10:14:24 PM »
I'll support the Villa always. There have been players and managers I don't like. Gerrard is my least favourite appointment. I'll support his team.

My impression of him is of an arrogant, unsavoury character, he fought hard on the pitch but thought nothing of cheating. There are allegations of attempts to pay people off, of assaults.

I'm not sure why people seem so happy about this. I just don't get it at all.

Same here. Agree with all those points.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2386 on: November 09, 2021, 10:14:44 PM »
If it is Gerrard, he'll either come in and do well, or he won't, and he won't have the benefit of the doubt for as long as Smith did.
TBF - that's a pretty good summary of whats been said over the last 50 pages

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2387 on: November 09, 2021, 10:14:45 PM »
Two kittens die every time someone compares this appointment to McLeish.

McLeish had just relegated Blues. Mcleish was renowned for really awful football. McLeish had just managed that lot over the road and they were relatively glad to see the back of him. It is nothing like McLeish.

It is a bit, in that when McLeish was appointed, his supporters (The General and er..that was about it) pointed to his success in Scotland, far more than Gerrard achieved.

And then, as now, it was argued that success there doesn’t have a lot of value.

I don’t have the personal enmity toward Gerrard that others have, he was a fantastic player and he’s done what you would expect in Scotland. I just see him as at best a step sideways from Dean and without the goodwill so I wonder what the point is?

If he comes I will think it a mistake but will give him my support, for what its worth.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2388 on: November 09, 2021, 10:14:51 PM »
I'm happy to move on, can you just do me a small favour and read the following?

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2389 on: November 09, 2021, 10:16:29 PM »
If it is Gerrard, he'll either come in and do well, or he won't, and he won't have the benefit of the doubt for as long as Smith did.

I just don't get it. We should be aiming far higher than giving him a chance. I think we've settled and that Smith would have done better.

I hope I'm wrong and that we win trophies, I just feel like the stories will be about him winning them, not the Villa.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2390 on: November 09, 2021, 10:18:04 PM »
If it is Gerrard, he'll either come in and do well, or he won't, and he won't have the benefit of the doubt for as long as Smith did.

I just don't get it. We should be aiming far higher than giving him a chance. I think we've settled and that Smith would have done better.

I hope I'm wrong and that we win trophies, I just feel like the stories will be about him winning them, not the Villa.
If it makes you feel better, I don't think you'll need to worry about winning trophies

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2391 on: November 09, 2021, 10:18:47 PM »
I'll support the Villa always. There have been players and managers I don't like. Gerrard is my least favourite appointment. I'll support his team.

My impression of him is of an arrogant, unsavoury character, he fought hard on the pitch but thought nothing of cheating. There are allegations of attempts to pay people off, of assaults.

I'm not sure why people seem so happy about this. I just don't get it at all.

Our captain last season broke lockdown rules after posting a video in support of the NHS, and also crashed into parked cars. John Terry was in court for assault as a younger man, but seems to have turned his public perception around.  I don't think I've seen anybody "happy" about this, just seems people are prepared to give whoever the new manager is, a chance.
« Last Edit: November 09, 2021, 10:22:41 PM by Jon Crofts »

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2392 on: November 09, 2021, 10:20:20 PM »
If it is Gerrard, he'll either come in and do well, or he won't, and he won't have the benefit of the doubt for as long as Smith did.

I just don't get it. We should be aiming far higher than giving him a chance. I think we've settled and that Smith would have done better.

I hope I'm wrong and that we win trophies, I just feel like the stories will be about him winning them, not the Villa.

Smith would have taken us down this season. The team was an absolute raggedy arsed shambles, the football was dismal and getting worse. The two first halves against Arsenal and Southampton were as bad as anything in the last 5 years.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2393 on: November 09, 2021, 10:21:09 PM »
If it is Gerrard, he'll either come in and do well, or he won't, and he won't have the benefit of the doubt for as long as Smith did.

I just don't get it. We should be aiming far higher than giving him a chance. I think we've settled and that Smith would have done better.

I hope I'm wrong and that we win trophies, I just feel like the stories will be about him winning them, not the Villa.

I agree with the first part but not the second.

We should be looking higher. Fonseca or favre both much better appointments however  smiths time was up. His record in 2021 was absymal. If it was any other manager we would all be screaming for him out.  For me he has been given enough time to turn it around. Sadly it never happened

Im hoping gerrard doesnt come and we look at someone like Favre who for me would be a brilliant appointment


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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2394 on: November 09, 2021, 10:21:19 PM »
McLeish was 100% committed to Villa whilst in post. He took an interest in every area of the playing sides, not just the first XI which cannot be said about quite a few other appointments in the last 10 or so years.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2395 on: November 09, 2021, 10:22:10 PM »
McLeish was 100% committed to Villa whilst in post. He took an interest in every area of the playing sides, not just the first XI which cannot be said about quite a few other appointments in the last 10 or so years.

Ive met mcleish although awful manager for us a really lovely bloke

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2396 on: November 09, 2021, 10:24:52 PM »
Agreed Risso. We are in a tailspin on the pitch.

Not one person is happy with Gerrard. I can rationalise why the board want him though. I also think he'll do well.

I don't see myself ever really liking him, but then at the same time I never saw myself tolerating Terry and he didn't put a for wrong really.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2397 on: November 09, 2021, 10:25:05 PM »
I'll support the Villa always. There have been players and managers I don't like. Gerrard is my least favourite appointment. I'll support his team.

My impression of him is of an arrogant, unsavoury character, he fought hard on the pitch but thought nothing of cheating. There are allegations of attempts to pay people off, of assaults.

I'm not sure why people seem so happy about this. I just don't get it at all.

Our captain last season broke lockdown rules after posting a video in support of the NHS, and also crashed into parked cars. John Terry was in court for assault as a younger man, but seems to have turned his public perception around.  I don't think I've seen anybody "happy" about this, just seems people are prepared to give whoever the new manager is, a chance.

Our captain had proven himself a dick, but I guess that's the thing, he had already got some credit in the bank and was a bit like the errant nephew who was a dick but you abated to help. Terry was a twat previously and did nothing wrong at Villa apart from allegedly helping our ex captain become our ex captain.

He'll get a chance, but I don't have to like it. Perhaps this time it will be me calling for his head early, and you supporting him! That would be a turn up.
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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2398 on: November 09, 2021, 10:26:53 PM »
McLeish was 100% committed to Villa whilst in post. He took an interest in every area of the playing sides, not just the first XI which cannot be said about quite a few other appointments in the last 10 or so years.

Whilst I never really understood the thinking of appointing him after relegation with them, he did at least have a record of success, of sorts. He was a decent bloke too by all accounts.

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Re: Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread
« Reply #2399 on: November 09, 2021, 10:28:17 PM »
If it is Gerrard, he'll either come in and do well, or he won't, and he won't have the benefit of the doubt for as long as Smith did.

I just don't get it. We should be aiming far higher than giving him a chance. I think we've settled and that Smith would have done better.

I hope I'm wrong and that we win trophies, I just feel like the stories will be about him winning them, not the Villa.

If we win the FA Cup I’ll be too pissed to give a toss about what the stories are about it.

 


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