Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread

[Clive W]

We shouldn’t write off  any* manager off before they’ve even walked through the door.

There’s a selection of the fan base that continue to have the temerity to write people off before they’ve had chance to prove themselves. Those that scoff at what Gerrard has achieved had absolutely no problem welcoming Dean Smith with open arms  despite having never finished above 11th in the Championship.

Those that claim they dislike the Liverpool connection will be the same people that will foam at the mouth when Grealish doesn’t clap the Holte end when he reappears in November. It’s blinkered, it’s weird, it’s not what we should be about. I get people have opinions and that’s what makes reading and participating in fan forums good but please let’s just get behind whoever is appointed.

FWIW I think Gerrard is a winner, he commands respect, he would bring with him a top class coaching set up and, if it happens, we should get right fucking behind him.


*everyone except Sam Allardyce

For a winner he hasn't, y'know, won much.

With Liverpool  - FA cup (x2), Football League Cup (x3), FA Charity Shield, European Cup, UEFA Cup, European Super Cup

But apart from that…what have the Romans done for us?

And since 1996 we have won…what exactly?

Discounting his playing career, because it's completely irrelevant, he has won one trophy. In three years.

Not sure if I've mentioned it, but St Johnstone manager Callum Davidson won twice as many trophies in one year.

The idea that Gerrard is in any way a successful manager stems back, yet again, to pathetic Liverpool fanwankery.

I'm well aware of how long it is since Villa last won a trophy, that's why I'd rather we appointed the best manager possible to end the drought, rather than getting gooey-eyed with excitement over someone because they used to play for Liverpool.

I wasn’t suggesting for one minute that Gerrard would be a good choice - I was merely countering the suggestion (ludicrous in my view) that he is not a “winner”

Fair enough, but there is no evidence that he is "a winner" in managerial terms. Certainly not more so than, say, Alex McLeish, who won eight trophies in five years at Ibrox.

Totally agree CD

[Toronto Villa]

Elmo is thinking what we are

https://twitter.com/elmo_27/status/1457656435786006531?s=21

[The_ads]

We shouldn’t write off  any* manager off before they’ve even walked through the door.

There’s a selection of the fan base that continue to have the temerity to write people off before they’ve had chance to prove themselves. Those that scoff at what Gerrard has achieved had absolutely no problem welcoming Dean Smith with open arms  despite having never finished above 11th in the Championship.

Those that claim they dislike the Liverpool connection will be the same people that will foam at the mouth when Grealish doesn’t clap the Holte end when he reappears in November. It’s blinkered, it’s weird, it’s not what we should be about. I get people have opinions and that’s what makes reading and participating in fan forums good but please let’s just get behind whoever is appointed.

FWIW I think Gerrard is a winner, he commands respect, he would bring with him a top class coaching set up and, if it happens, we should get right fucking behind him.


*everyone except Sam Allardyce

For a winner he hasn't, y'know, won much.

With Liverpool  - FA cup (x2), Football League Cup (x3), FA Charity Shield, European Cup, UEFA Cup, European Super Cup

But apart from that…what have the Romans done for us?

And since 1996 we have won…what exactly?

Discounting his playing career, because it's completely irrelevant, he has won one trophy. In three years.

Not sure if I've mentioned it, but St Johnstone manager Callum Davidson won twice as many trophies in one year.

The idea that Gerrard is in any way a successful manager stems back, yet again, to pathetic Liverpool fanwankery.

I'm well aware of how long it is since Villa last won a trophy, that's why I'd rather we appointed the best manager possible to end the drought, rather than getting gooey-eyed with excitement over someone because they used to play for Liverpool.

I wasn’t suggesting for one minute that Gerrard would be a good choice - I was merely countering the suggestion (ludicrous in my view) that he is not a “winner”

Fair enough, but there is no evidence that he is "a winner" in managerial terms. Certainly not more so than, say, Alex McLeish, who won eight trophies in five years at Ibrox.

With respect, there is no evidence any one linked with job the last few days can bring success to the club.  It’s really early days but Palace took a risk on Viera and currently playing some great stuff and winning football matches. Brighton took a risk on Potter and plenty would have him as manager. I’m not sure we should be so quick to dismiss the credentials of someone before he’s even been interviewed. I cognisant we all want the same thing here and that’s success for the football club,  but I do see some over reactionary views sometimes

[cdbearsfan]

There is no guarantee that any manager can bring success, of course. But one with a proven managerial pedigree has a much better chance than one appointed because he was a good player and is mates with the person making the decision.

[Flin5tone]

All the Headlines tomorrow are that the job of Aston Villa Head Coach will be Steven Gerrards if he would like it.

If true, I would hope Gary McAllister will be part of the coaching team as he done a fantastic job as caretaker and at the time should have been given the job Full Time instead of appointing Alex McLeish

I would still prefer Roy Hodgson until the summer and get us safely up to mid -table and then go all out for Ten Hag and bring with him the Ajax way of doing things. Their Academy is remarkable

[Sexual Ealing]

We shouldn’t write off  any* manager off before they’ve even walked through the door.

There’s a selection of the fan base that continue to have the temerity to write people off before they’ve had chance to prove themselves. Those that scoff at what Gerrard has achieved had absolutely no problem welcoming Dean Smith with open arms  despite having never finished above 11th in the Championship.

Those that claim they dislike the Liverpool connection will be the same people that will foam at the mouth when Grealish doesn’t clap the Holte end when he reappears in November. It’s blinkered, it’s weird, it’s not what we should be about. I get people have opinions and that’s what makes reading and participating in fan forums good but please let’s just get behind whoever is appointed.

FWIW I think Gerrard is a winner, he commands respect, he would bring with him a top class coaching set up and, if it happens, we should get right fucking behind him.


*everyone except Sam Allardyce

For a winner he hasn't, y'know, won much.

Every domestic honour more than twice over bar the big one, European cup, UEFA cup and European Super cup.  But yeah - not much

I was under the impression that we were thinking of him as a manager?

[Clive W]

We shouldn’t write off  any* manager off before they’ve even walked through the door.

There’s a selection of the fan base that continue to have the temerity to write people off before they’ve had chance to prove themselves. Those that scoff at what Gerrard has achieved had absolutely no problem welcoming Dean Smith with open arms  despite having never finished above 11th in the Championship.

Those that claim they dislike the Liverpool connection will be the same people that will foam at the mouth when Grealish doesn’t clap the Holte end when he reappears in November. It’s blinkered, it’s weird, it’s not what we should be about. I get people have opinions and that’s what makes reading and participating in fan forums good but please let’s just get behind whoever is appointed.

FWIW I think Gerrard is a winner, he commands respect, he would bring with him a top class coaching set up and, if it happens, we should get right fucking behind him.


*everyone except Sam Allardyce

For a winner he hasn't, y'know, won much.

Every domestic honour more than twice over bar the big one, European cup, UEFA cup and European Super cup.  But yeah - not much

I was under the impression that we were thinking of him as a manager?

Perhaps we are all getting confused with terminology

If we can agree that Gerrard has a “winner’s mentality” would that help?

[Drummond]

All depends on the expectations. Will Gerrard come if the job doesn't have a large budget? No. Will he come if he thinks he won't be backed... no. So from that respect I think he's going to be ok. He's not who I'd want, but I think he'll do 2-2.5 years and we will be top half at the end of that.

I can't tell if you're happy with it or not.

[cdbearsfan]

We shouldn’t write off  any* manager off before they’ve even walked through the door.

There’s a selection of the fan base that continue to have the temerity to write people off before they’ve had chance to prove themselves. Those that scoff at what Gerrard has achieved had absolutely no problem welcoming Dean Smith with open arms  despite having never finished above 11th in the Championship.

Those that claim they dislike the Liverpool connection will be the same people that will foam at the mouth when Grealish doesn’t clap the Holte end when he reappears in November. It’s blinkered, it’s weird, it’s not what we should be about. I get people have opinions and that’s what makes reading and participating in fan forums good but please let’s just get behind whoever is appointed.

FWIW I think Gerrard is a winner, he commands respect, he would bring with him a top class coaching set up and, if it happens, we should get right fucking behind him.


*everyone except Sam Allardyce

For a winner he hasn't, y'know, won much.

Every domestic honour more than twice over bar the big one, European cup, UEFA cup and European Super cup.  But yeah - not much

I was under the impression that we were thinking of him as a manager?

Perhaps we are all getting confused with terminology

If we can agree that Gerrard has a “winner’s mentality” would that help?

More of winner's mentality than Steve Bruce, who won more trophies?

[Sexual Ealing]

We shouldn’t write off  any* manager off before they’ve even walked through the door.

There’s a selection of the fan base that continue to have the temerity to write people off before they’ve had chance to prove themselves. Those that scoff at what Gerrard has achieved had absolutely no problem welcoming Dean Smith with open arms  despite having never finished above 11th in the Championship.

Those that claim they dislike the Liverpool connection will be the same people that will foam at the mouth when Grealish doesn’t clap the Holte end when he reappears in November. It’s blinkered, it’s weird, it’s not what we should be about. I get people have opinions and that’s what makes reading and participating in fan forums good but please let’s just get behind whoever is appointed.

FWIW I think Gerrard is a winner, he commands respect, he would bring with him a top class coaching set up and, if it happens, we should get right fucking behind him.


*everyone except Sam Allardyce

For a winner he hasn't, y'know, won much.

Every domestic honour more than twice over bar the big one, European cup, UEFA cup and European Super cup.  But yeah - not much

I was under the impression that we were thinking of him as a manager?

Perhaps we are all getting confused with terminology

If we can agree that Gerrard has a “winner’s mentality” would that help?

So does Paul Lambert. It means nothing.

[Drummond]

I'm worried that we might not have our Villa back if we appoint Gerrard.

I've no doubt he'll say he loved Villa Park, massive club etc but the reality is he'll be using us as a stepping stone to another club. Which fucks me off.

[The Edge]

Sacking Smith without a clear strategy for what we do next is irresponsible, dumb and pointless. If there was a strategy and that strategy was to bring in an unproven manager who happens to be a mate of Purslow then it's a huge risk to take. If it does turn out to be a huge mistake Mr Purslow will exit the club with his mate Stevie G and they'll both walk away with a handsome pay off but I guess that's my cynical side talking. NWSE have been great until now and I'm hoping that they can pull a rabbit out of the bag and surprise us all. Surely they aren't about to allow Christian Purslow to roll the dice and gamble away all their hard work and derail their long term goals and ambitions for the club?

[Toronto Villa]

Just had a long chat with my mate who is a massive Rangers fan.

I’m voting NO on Gerrard. Nothing at all to do with him. I don’t give a fuck about that. It’s more his tactics and lack of success overall. Yes one league title, but he quickly said 1 in 9. And tactically he said he doesn’t bring anything truly innovative. I wanted to hear that perspective vs just not wanting him. I hope we have a better plan and this is all media talk.

[Ads]

I wouldn't worry about speculation. Ultimately whoever it is, you'll get behind them regardless.

Bar Deano for 3 years, we haven't got one right since 2006 and we've got behind all the other buggers since, full of (often limited) hope and (even more limited) expectations.

[pelty]

Gerrard would be the definition of underwhelming. He also would be a fine example of “uninspiring,” “mind-boggling,” and, for all the kids out there, “WTF.”