Next Manager Speculation and wishful thinking thread

[Beard82]

Doesn’t anyone else feel just that little bit jealous that clubs like Spurs can just go out there and get in a top class manager, with the minimum of fuss?

Do you not recall all of the managers they didn’t get before ending up with Nuno? It was a fucking gong show as managerial appointments go

Yes.

Doesn’t anyone else feel just that little bit jealous that clubs like Spurs can just go out there and get in a top class manager, with the minimum of fuss?

Yes. Also jealous that they have acted and we are still dithering.

are we dithering though? We are giving him a chance to fix the issue. And going into the season everyone agreed he should get a chance to improve on last year. It's 4 shit defeats now after beating Man U. Dithering would be firing him in January if this trend continues.

I would imagine, as reported, we aren't dithering we're looking at options whilst remaining open to the idea that Dean could turn it round. 

[cdbearsfan]

Exactly. Just as Tottenham were almost certainly in touch with Conte well before the defeat against Man U.

[nigel]

Exactly. Just as Tottenham were almost certainly in touch with Conte well before the defeat against Man U.

Just read on the bbc sport gossip that we’ve made ‘informal’ contact with Fonseca.
I know it’s a link from the mail so I’ll take it with a pinch of salt.

I really want Dean to come through this.

[ez]

Doesn’t anyone else feel just that little bit jealous that clubs like Spurs can just go out there and get in a top class manager, with the minimum of fuss?

Do you not recall all of the managers they didn’t get before ending up with Nuno? It was a fucking gong show as managerial appointments go

Yes.

Doesn’t anyone else feel just that little bit jealous that clubs like Spurs can just go out there and get in a top class manager, with the minimum of fuss?

Yes. Also jealous that they have acted and we are still dithering.

are we dithering though? We are giving him a chance to fix the issue. And going into the season everyone agreed he should get a chance to improve on last year. It's 4 shit defeats now after beating Man U. Dithering would be firing him in January if this trend continues.

I would imagine, as reported, we aren't dithering we're looking at options whilst remaining open to the idea that Dean could turn it round. 

We've been waiting a long time for him to turn it round though.

[Skerra]

Should be done well before January if results keep going as they are but, I stress again, only if we can get a top manager in that can also attract top players.

[N'ZMAV]

Should be done well before January if results keep going as they are but, I stress again, only if we can get a top manager in that can also attract top players.

been a long while since we've had a top manager.

[achilles]

Should be done well before January if results keep going as they are but, I stress again, only if we can get a top manager in that can also attract top players.

been a long while since we've had a top manager.

Would you class Fonseca as a top manager, I really don't know?

No debate with Conte but that one has flown the nest!

[N'ZMAV]

Should be done well before January if results keep going as they are but, I stress again, only if we can get a top manager in that can also attract top players.

been a long while since we've had a top manager.

Would you class Fonseca as a top manager, I really don't know?

No debate with Conte but that one has flown the nest!

I don't know enough about him.

[tony scott]

Apart from all the fuss they made in the summer when they missed out on him, you mean?

Him and half a dozen others. Rumour is Yosser Hughes turned it down.

I think the biggest problem we have is the coaching team, which enables to remove the head coach with out affecting the rest of the structure ,therefore any replacement is going to have to slot in seamlessly ,this could be problematic.

[cdbearsfan]

Surely it would be more problematic if the manager had Stalin-like control over every aspect of the club? Remember how we struggled after O'Neill flounced out?

[Toronto Villa]

Doesn’t anyone else feel just that little bit jealous that clubs like Spurs can just go out there and get in a top class manager, with the minimum of fuss?

Do you not recall all of the managers they didn’t get before ending up with Nuno? It was a fucking gong show as managerial appointments go

Yes.

Doesn’t anyone else feel just that little bit jealous that clubs like Spurs can just go out there and get in a top class manager, with the minimum of fuss?

Yes. Also jealous that they have acted and we are still dithering.

are we dithering though? We are giving him a chance to fix the issue. And going into the season everyone agreed he should get a chance to improve on last year. It's 4 shit defeats now after beating Man U. Dithering would be firing him in January if this trend continues.

It’s 4 defeats! It’s a year long downturn and 19 goals let in this season. Defending as bad as the season we came up.

I get that. And I don't entirely disagree. But you can't just start adding dates to suit an argument. The season ended with two wins. Yes a lot went on this summer, much not in the control of the manager, but the season began with expectations based on this campaign and not combined with previous. He has failed so far this season and while you can look at a larger sample size, he will be retained or let go based on the expectaions set, relative to investment made in the summer and the squad we now have. He should be doing much better.

[KevinGage]

We could probably work around experimenting with trying to fit Watkins and Ings in a front 2/3 and having that missfire.

But our defensive brittleness is much more of a concern.

[ozzjim]

How do you quantify a top manager?

Trophies in a top 5 European league? In which case Emry is a brilliant pick up for Newcastle. Conte similarly for Spurs. But then I wouldn't want Jose anywhere near the place and he's won loads. Fonseca has trophies in Portugal and Ukraine and finished top 5 with Roma, is that good?

At the same time Potter had shown tactical flexibility and constantly embedded a clear style of play to his teams and looks from the outside to be the next Rodgers level manager so could be a really good choice for the long term, and appears to give younger players a shot. Could be become a top manager?

Villas Boas is only 44, won trophies and has a generally good record, he could be worth a shot back in English football.

Rudi Garcia has a decent record in France. Won trophies.

Christoph Gaultier has won things and might be gettable. Is he a top manager?

There are a lot of good managers out there, for us is about getting one that can work within the structure and have a bit more tactical ability than Smith. I actually think Smith hasn't been helped by his back room choices in the summer either to be fair. Shakespeare doesn't seem to be adding as much sorry as ROK did, while I'm yet to see the attacking wonders Danks has brought in.

[LeeB]

We could probably work around experimenting with trying to fit Watkins and Ings in a front 2/3 and having that missfire.

But our defensive brittleness is much more of a concern.

I agree, that's my bigger worry, we're far too easy to play through. There was a point last season when if the opposition were forced to slig in crosses I couldn't be happier, because they were never going to score, whereas now I'm watching through my fingers.

The stats on our distances covered are also concerning and I'm sure they're related.

We were much harder edged earlier last season, yes we got caught a couple of times with Leeds and Southampton but at least we were dying trying, and you can live with that, the approach will yield more than you'll lose.

And I know some wouldn't have but I felt we've lacked that edge since Trez got injured, yes he wasted chances and was erratic, but his workrate and discipline was massively improved and gave the team balance. Replacing him with a slicker, but still hard working right sided player may have helped. I love Bert but he couldn't be further from that type of player, and I always felt it left us a bit short against harder working sides.

[ozzjim]

Bert worked harder as the season went on, and is a very under rated player for me, but you can't carry him and Bailey in the same side. He's a bit like El Ghazi too, a 1 good game in 3 (el Ghazi being about 4 or 5). Actually think Bert at 10 is probably a better option than Buendia.