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Author Topic: Villa vs Wolves - Post debacle thread  (Read 10105 times)

Online Allan C

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Re: Villa vs Wolves - Post debacle thread
« Reply #270 on: October 17, 2021, 06:05:39 PM »
Like most posters, I thought we were on top right up to our second goal. Then we started giving the ball away continually and Wolves got confidence from it. The goals were absolutely farcical with rank poor defending. Some are saying that Ings and Watkins isn’t working but I say let’s wait till Watkins is in form before we condemn it. Watkins is clearly way out of form at the moment. I don’t blame Smith for the defeat, we just started to play poorly in the last 10 mins

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Re: Villa vs Wolves - Post debacle thread
« Reply #271 on: October 17, 2021, 06:27:55 PM »
Like most posters, I thought we were on top right up to our second goal. Then we started giving the ball away continually and Wolves got confidence from it. The goals were absolutely farcical with rank poor defending. Some are saying that Ings and Watkins isn’t working but I say let’s wait till Watkins is in form before we condemn it. Watkins is clearly way out of form at the moment. I don’t blame Smith for the defeat, we just started to play poorly in the last 10 mins
How many games should we lose before we change it?

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Re: Villa vs Wolves - Post debacle thread
« Reply #272 on: October 17, 2021, 06:29:09 PM »
I’d like to see Watkins and Ings in a 433 if Bailey isn’t available. If he is, Ings, Bailey and Buendía as the three up top.

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Re: Villa vs Wolves - Post debacle thread
« Reply #273 on: October 17, 2021, 06:46:14 PM »
Like most posters, I thought we were on top right up to our second goal. Then we started giving the ball away continually and Wolves got confidence from it. The goals were absolutely farcical with rank poor defending. Some are saying that Ings and Watkins isn’t working but I say let’s wait till Watkins is in form before we condemn it. Watkins is clearly way out of form at the moment. I don’t blame Smith for the defeat, we just started to play poorly in the last 10 mins
How many games should we lose before we change it?
I’d personally persevere with Ollie, his form will be back. As for switching off at 2-0 with 10 mins to go, that’s down to player concentration and I think lesson learned

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Re: Villa vs Wolves - Post debacle thread
« Reply #274 on: October 17, 2021, 07:56:46 PM »
Stems from Mings. We need leadership and he lost his head. Meanwhile our best centre half by a country mile is playing so far right his average starting position is full back.
We need a centre half as good as Konsa. Had it with Mings. No more excuses. He's not a top half player and a new centre half should be a top priority.
Agree with this. We need much more surety at the back - where's the next Martin Laursen?

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Re: Villa vs Wolves - Post debacle thread
« Reply #275 on: October 17, 2021, 08:01:16 PM »
I don't think we were the better team at all. The warning signs were there in the first half when Traore barged through the whole defence and should have scored. We looked disorganised from the get go.
No, don't agree Pete. Yes, Traore had one or two runs that were dangerous, but Wolves had nothing else going on in the first half and we had several very smart moves that ended up with goal attempts (the best of which was from Ings and McGinn); we should have been up at halftime.

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Re: Villa vs Wolves - Post debacle thread
« Reply #276 on: October 17, 2021, 08:18:44 PM »
Don’t think anyone has commented on the possible sending off of Mings. He had already been booked for being a prat. Later, Wolves had been given a goal kick and as he went past the ball, he scooped it up and threw it backwards. If he hadn’t already been booked, the ref would have shown him the yellow card for that. Both Mings and Watkins appear to have gone backwards since they have been in the England squad.
Yes i noticed that and thought what a dumb ass thing to do especially as he was on a yellow---and yes it seems joining the 3 Lions  really scrambles their brains---why?

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Re: Villa vs Wolves - Post debacle thread
« Reply #277 on: October 17, 2021, 08:19:39 PM »
I don't think we were the better team at all. The warning signs were there in the first half when Traore barged through the whole defence and should have scored. We looked disorganised from the get go.
No, don't agree Pete. Yes, Traore had one or two runs that were dangerous, but Wolves had nothing else going on in the first half and we had several very smart moves that ended up with goal attempts (the best of which was from Ings and McGinn); we should have been up at halftime.
That was a glorious chance for Ings before half time. A very good save by their keeper but he should not have had the opportunity. Fine margins.

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Re: Villa vs Wolves - Post debacle thread
« Reply #278 on: October 17, 2021, 08:21:20 PM »
Ings had a free header at 2-2 as well.

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Re: Villa vs Wolves - Post debacle thread
« Reply #279 on: October 17, 2021, 08:26:04 PM »
i was fuming when they equalised at 2-2, but when they got the free kick, it seemed like half the lower holte knew what was going to happen and made a bolt for the exits, looking over their shoulder at the ensuing car crash as they walked up the stairs.

i've seen us shit the bed before, but never in such style, to a poorer side.

big week ahead for smith and the players. reaction against arsenal will set the tone.

I'm sure we'll get the same old waffle from Smith in next week's press conference. "Good response in training, determined to put it right blah blah, blah."
What the f**k is h supposed to say Risso?. “You know what lads, we’re in a right load of shite at the moment, we’ve lost two in a row, might as well give up and welcome the championship”.  I’ve yet to hear any ideas from your posts, apart from “sack the manager”’ like that’s worked in the past few years.

It does beg the question though why do press conferences why do we bother Listening to them if everything they say is a complete load of bollocks
Because idiotic journalists ask idiotic questions and get bland anti-controversial answers. Unfortunately the media these days is so dumbed down it beggars belief:

Indeed.  If it you want to hear how it should be done, watch Big Match Revisited.

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Re: Villa vs Wolves - Post debacle thread
« Reply #280 on: October 17, 2021, 08:30:00 PM »
That was a glorious chance for Ings before half time. A very good save by their keeper but he should not have had the opportunity. Fine margins.

Indeed. He shot across the keeper giving him more time rather than going for the closer right side of him.

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Re: Villa vs Wolves - Post debacle thread
« Reply #281 on: October 17, 2021, 09:11:37 PM »
I was gutted leaving Villa Park I thought at 2-0 with twenty minutes left we had it in the bag but little did I know we implode.

I saw you walking down Trinity Road yesterday Daz, from the other side of the road.

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Re: Villa vs Wolves - Post debacle thread
« Reply #282 on: October 17, 2021, 09:48:36 PM »
i was fuming when they equalised at 2-2, but when they got the free kick, it seemed like half the lower holte knew what was going to happen and made a bolt for the exits, looking over their shoulder at the ensuing car crash as they walked up the stairs.

i've seen us shit the bed before, but never in such style, to a poorer side.

big week ahead for smith and the players. reaction against arsenal will set the tone.

I'm sure we'll get the same old waffle from Smith in next week's press conference. "Good response in training, determined to put it right blah blah, blah."
What the f**k is h supposed to say Risso?. “You know what lads, we’re in a right load of shite at the moment, we’ve lost two in a row, might as well give up and welcome the championship”.  I’ve yet to hear any ideas from your posts, apart from “sack the manager”’ like that’s worked in the past few years.

Well said Taylor

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Re: Villa vs Wolves - Post debacle thread
« Reply #283 on: October 17, 2021, 11:34:11 PM »
Buendia was signaling to the bench that he wanted to come off, when that happened we lost a lot of momentum. There was a period just before their first when we were giving the ball back to them just outside the box not just once but half a dozen times, that was when i started to get nervous. Still believe DS lost us the game with his subs.

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Re: Villa vs Wolves - Post debacle thread
« Reply #284 on: October 17, 2021, 11:52:39 PM »
I don't think we were the better team at all. The warning signs were there in the first half when Traore barged through the whole defence and should have scored. We looked disorganised from the get go.
No, don't agree Pete. Yes, Traore had one or two runs that were dangerous, but Wolves had nothing else going on in the first half and we had several very smart moves that ended up with goal attempts (the best of which was from Ings and McGinn); we should have been up at halftime.
That was a glorious chance for Ings before half time. A very good save by their keeper but he should not have had the opportunity. Fine margins.

Brilliant weight of pass from Buendia for that chance....haven't seen one like that from our number 10 since...

 


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