Villa vs Wolves - Post debacle thread

[walsall villain]

Losing like that is so hard to take. I thought we were made of sterner stuff. All I hope is that when our wide players are fit we drop the 3-5-2 and play either Ings or Watkins not both. That last 15 minutes is going to be hard to forget.

[PaulWinch again]

The decision to persist with Tuanzebe, despite him being Wolves most creative outlet from open play.

The decision to persist with Mings, despite him being atrocious at Spurs and equally as dead between the ears today. I feel for Hause.

The decision to make a sub before a corner, given our spectacularly ameutrish defending at the 2nd phase from a set piece 5 minutes before.

The decision to persist with a stifling 532 at home to rank mid table garbage.

I think the formation is a big problem. It works ok when we’re expecting to have our backs against the wall, but at home that should be very rare. Against the likes of Wolves it’s a weak approach and invites pressure. We should be looking to dominate these type of games.

[RichardBatchelor]

Losing like that is so hard to take. I thought we were made of sterner stuff. All I hope is that when our wide players are fit we drop the 3-5-2 and play either Ings or Watkins not both. That last 15 minutes is going to be hard to forget.

We are made of sterner stuff 49 times out of 50. Shit happens. It’s not as if it happens every fortnight like under Lambert.

[Legion]

Why bring on Young and not Hause? Why not sub Watkins for Archer?

[Legion]

Ings and Watkins is just not working. Play one or the other.

[ROBBO]

Nakamba had nothing to do with the loss, rather Ashley Young for Cash was a diabolical decision. The one player I will pick out for criticism is Mings, he has been very poor the last few games and his second half performance was rubbish, he is the Captain and supposed to be the leader on the pitch but we see him taking wild hacks at the ball total lack of composure. Credit To JM and Buendia for their quality. Once we went two up the performance dropped off, Wolves had no option but to attack and we turned to water. Once they scored it was predictable they would get another, we gave up. As for Dean Smith, it's no use blaming the players you are the boss, you pick the team and make the subs and for sure every change you made weakened the side, from 2-0 up we should have been able to hold them comfortably and move up the table but yet again we managed to be what has been so typical of Villa sides through the last couple of years grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory.

[Legion]

I believe Cash was injured so replacing him was the correct decision. Just not with Young.

[brontebilly]

For me the issue is, other than the second half against Everton and against United we haven’t really played well for an extended period yet this season

Was always likely to be this way post Grealish. But after winning at Old Trafford, it's very disappointing to lose back to back against two very average teams.

[vilan461]

The decision to persist with Tuanzebe, despite him being Wolves most creative outlet from open play.

The decision to persist with Mings, despite him being atrocious at Spurs and equally as dead between the ears today. I feel for Hause.

The decision to make a sub before a corner, given our spectacularly ameutrish defending at the 2nd phase from a set piece 5 minutes before.

The decision to persist with a stifling 532 at home to rank mid table garbage.

Fully agree---Tuanzebe was their best player first half---Mings head completely went awol after his booking, 3 goals conceded from set pieces just aint good enough even more so with 3 CB,s trying to defend--it didnt work the system needs changing,--i just knew after their first that a defeat was on the cards the players body language was simply awful ,

[OzVilla]

Decided to watch this despite the midnight KO. Absolutely pathetic at the end, no other word for it, real rabbits in headlights stuff and a horrific result for DS. It’s on the lot of them, senior players and management.

Really think Smith will start to feel some heat after this, just feels like a season defining moment but I hope I’m wrong. Just pissed all that hard work at Old Trafford away.

Not a great watch when you’re an anxiety sufferer. Try sleeping after that.

[David_Nab]

Mings in the fh gave away a corner when he could of given away a throw in due to dwelling on ball , it carried on most of the game. He instilled no confidence in me watching so no wonder the rest of them fell apart.

The 2 man attack isn't working  as Ing's and Watkins have zero link up play but also as we persist on early long balls down the line that if neither striker gets to the ball just comes back to us into a mf lacking a man as we have 2 up top.Traore and Son are 2 good dribblers with the ball but in the last 2 games we have simply been unable to handle them at all ,which considering we have 5 defenders on the pitch is even more worrying !

The Prodence came on also got at dribbling and we couldn't handle him !!

In the end the 3-5-2 hinder us as the back 5 where all over the place ,the top 2 had no service as the MF was being overun due to lack of numbers.The subs ,well Doug was tired as was Emi in seemed to we had to take them off neither did well.Marv as happens was given no time on ball and Ramsey when he got on ball was wasteful and the foul for the winner was piss poor brought about as the whole team had lost its composure.

Goals conceded is a worry and the improved defence we saw last year is starting to resemble the first year back , perhaps we are feeling the effects of Terrys departure from that area of the coaching team .

[SoccerHQ]

Nakamba being made the sacrificial lamb as always. Normally plays well for us when he starts.

Not at Watford he didn't.

In fairness he's usually not that bad coming on to see out a lead, did well a few times last season so it was a logical sub given there was no way Luiz was playing 90 minutes today.

[SoccerHQ]

The decision to persist with Tuanzebe, despite him being Wolves most creative outlet from open play.

The decision to persist with Mings, despite him being atrocious at Spurs and equally as dead between the ears today. I feel for Hause.

The decision to make a sub before a corner, given our spectacularly ameutrish defending at the 2nd phase from a set piece 5 minutes before.

The decision to persist with a stifling 532 at home to rank mid table garbage.

I think the formation is a big problem. It works ok when we’re expecting to have our backs against the wall, but at home that should be very rare. Against the likes of Wolves it’s a weak approach and invites pressure. We should be looking to dominate these type of games.

In fairness though bar the mad Adama run Wolves barely had a shot for first 70 minutes so not like they were cutting through us at will.

We defended a couple of set pieces appallingly and that can happen with any formation. Less chance of that happening through with Hause on the pitch though imo.

[Taylor]

I was at the game today (I don’t get to go as often as most). Had Wolves turned up and battered us I would be righty concerned, but Emi hardly had to make a save until the last ten mins, yes it was a shite 10 mins, but the formation and subs by Dean weren’t to blame for that.

[tony scott]

What this result does to our already fragile confidence I’ve yet see, but other teams will take notice of our ability to coincide 3 in the last 15 mins. I like Tyrone Mings, but that utterly pointless booking left him vulnerable and he must take the blame for that.  Watkins has stopped closing down effectively, two positives for me EMI starting to look like the player we thought we were buying and it wasn’t against the blues. UTV