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Re: Kaine Kesler Hayden
« Reply #195 on: July 25, 2022, 09:44:01 AM »
He's looked a great prospect for some time now.  I'd like to see him as back up to Cash, although his minutes wll be pretty limited.  But with the 5 subs I think he could be a genuine attacking option to bring on if we're chasing a game.

I think so too. We want him in training with the first team and learning all he can, playing in the cup games, and getting used to the league. He's played well against both Man U and Man City this year, so we can see he's capable. It also helps us rest Cash and keep him fresh, as bombing up and down the pitch all match is hard work.

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Re: Kaine Kesler Hayden
« Reply #196 on: August 11, 2022, 07:50:24 PM »
According to t'Interwebnet a loan to Huddersfield is being discussed.

If it goes through, where does that leave Monsieur Guilbert?

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Re: Kaine Kesler Hayden
« Reply #197 on: August 11, 2022, 08:20:22 PM »
He should be pushing Cash hard for his place not going on loan.
He has extraordinary pace which is a rarity.

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Re: Kaine Kesler Hayden
« Reply #198 on: August 11, 2022, 08:23:54 PM »
According to t'Interwebnet a loan to Huddersfield is being discussed.

If it goes through, where does that leave Monsieur Guilbert?

Must surely mean he's staying.

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Re: Kaine Kesler Hayden
« Reply #199 on: August 11, 2022, 08:55:46 PM »
According to t'Interwebnet a loan to Huddersfield is being discussed.
If it goes through, where does that leave Monsieur Guilbert?
Must surely mean he's staying.
Or, Cashley (**shudders**) is our cover for RB.

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Re: Kaine Kesler Hayden
« Reply #200 on: August 12, 2022, 12:53:00 AM »
Or Chambers. Or Konsa.

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Re: Kaine Kesler Hayden
« Reply #201 on: August 12, 2022, 01:10:02 AM »
Or Chambers. Or Konsa.
Both would suffice as temporary cover. Lumping Young in there too, but I wouldn't want him there for a whole game. With Gerrard's formation and importance on fullbacks as attackers, any long stretches with Cash injured would be quite problematic.

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Re: Kaine Kesler Hayden
« Reply #202 on: August 12, 2022, 09:29:26 AM »
Considering the impressive cameos in pre season that would be quite strange to let him go out now - maybe 6 months loan might be worth it as Cash is rarely out injured so game time might be limited

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Re: Kaine Kesler Hayden
« Reply #203 on: August 12, 2022, 09:41:47 AM »
Hmm.  I've go high hopes for this kid and thought with 5 subs he could be a genuine attacking option off the bench.  But if he's not even going to get on the bench then it would be better for his development to go on loan.

Quite why we need two centre backs on the bench I don't know.

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Re: Kaine Kesler Hayden
« Reply #204 on: August 12, 2022, 10:57:52 AM »
Hmm.  I've go high hopes for this kid and thought with 5 subs he could be a genuine attacking option off the bench.  But if he's not even going to get on the bench then it would be better for his development to go on loan.

Quite why we need two centre backs on the bench I don't know.
agree.
We seem to be making lots of poor decisions

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Re: Kaine Kesler Hayden
« Reply #205 on: August 12, 2022, 11:08:04 AM »
Considering the impressive cameos in pre season that would be quite strange to let him go out now - maybe 6 months loan might be worth it as Cash is rarely out injured so game time might be limited

That's where I'm at. Matty plays a lot of minutes so maybe 6 months in the Championship (a step-up from last season in League 1) will be better for his long-term development.

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Re: Kaine Kesler Hayden
« Reply #206 on: August 12, 2022, 11:30:08 AM »
Whilst it won't do him any harm, he's been out on loan twice already. I'd rather have him on our bench. I think he'd make a good attacking option as well as full back cover.

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Re: Kaine Kesler Hayden
« Reply #207 on: August 12, 2022, 11:34:54 AM »
Whilst it won't do him any harm, he's been out on loan twice already. I'd rather have him on our bench. I think he'd make a good attacking option as well as full back cover.

Agreed. What we've got now is Ashley Young effectively taking his place, which is a daft situation to be in.

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Re: Kaine Kesler Hayden
« Reply #208 on: August 12, 2022, 11:40:15 AM »
Whilst it won't do him any harm, he's been out on loan twice already. I'd rather have him on our bench. I think he'd make a good attacking option as well as full back cover.

He's still only 19. It's not unusual for players to have several loans before they come into the thinking for the first team and yes, he's been on loan to 2 different clubs but it's 1 season of league football.

I was hoping he would be Cash's understudy this season and with him looking good during pre-season but a season at a championship club who did well last season and almost got promotion will do him a lot of good. In a year's time Young will retire or go elsewhere and KKH will step-up, pretty much seemlessly, you would think.

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Re: Kaine Kesler Hayden
« Reply #209 on: August 12, 2022, 11:43:33 AM »
The Championship is a good step up again for him - six months in league 2 and excelled, six months in league 1 and did well.  Now let's see what he can do in the Championship. A good six months there and he'll be ready to push Cash as part of the first-team squad.

I can see the advantages of keeping him here as Cash's understudy, but Cash played more minutes than any other outfield player in the entire league last year.  If he's fit, he plays, and he doesn't appear to tire in games, so I can see why the club might think a 6-month Championship loan would do KKH good.

I'd like to see him play our cup games, but I suspect 20-odd championship games will be better for him than a handful of early-round cup games for us?

 


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