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Re: Summer Olympics/Paralympics, Tokyo, delayed to 2021
« Reply #315 on: August 09, 2021, 02:15:29 PM »
It is always a "lottery" as they can either give a little bit to all the sports which wouldn't be enough anywhere, or do what they do now which is target based on medals won which means a poor performance / equipment failure or the emergence of a freak dominant athlete can eff up medal contentions for those events for the several games going forward.

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Re: Summer Olympics/Paralympics, Tokyo, delayed to 2021
« Reply #316 on: August 09, 2021, 04:24:34 PM »
There’s talk of them trying to be a bit more “holistic” in their approach to funding (whatever the fuck that is) as opposed to being so medal led when it comes to funding. Team sports badly lose out to individual sports on the current basis. That said I think we were the country who won medals in the broadest range of sports so we don’t do too badly.

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Re: Summer Olympics/Paralympics, Tokyo, delayed to 2021
« Reply #317 on: August 09, 2021, 07:29:59 PM »

And didn't have to count Mo's "medals" this time. Seems you had to be involved in WWII to get in the top ten though. :(

Mo's "Medals"? Any reason we shouldn't include them?

It's because of his links to Salazar. I think a lot of the reaction is over the top but i can understand some people having a question mark next to him.

Certainly a question mark or two but probably wasn't included in the BBC's Olympics coverage.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/other-sports/athletics/ewan-mackenna-mo-farah-has-more-questions-to-answer-than-gold-medals-and-the-facts-are-stacking-up-against-him-36712511.html

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Re: Summer Olympics/Paralympics, Tokyo, delayed to 2021
« Reply #318 on: August 10, 2021, 10:51:19 AM »
I'm surprised that anyone could still believe Mo was clean.

I don't terribly hold it against him, mind. I am confident most elite athletes use PEDs.

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Re: Summer Olympics/Paralympics, Tokyo, delayed to 2021
« Reply #319 on: August 10, 2021, 01:36:33 PM »
It does seem that the allegations surrounding Farrah get more attention than those about non-refugee, white competitors like Bradley Wiggins, for instance.

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Re: Summer Olympics/Paralympics, Tokyo, delayed to 2021
« Reply #320 on: August 11, 2021, 05:25:32 AM »
He is a much bigger name, maybe? And, frankly, surely no one anywhere still believes elite cyclists are clean.

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Re: Summer Olympics/Paralympics, Tokyo, delayed to 2021
« Reply #321 on: August 11, 2021, 08:53:46 AM »
I suspect the better comparison might be Paula Radcliffe as the article did mention her in passing but linking her to the exact same thing in one line only. 

It was just more strange for the OP to pick up on an athlete who contributed two medals per games and who isn't even their this year when replying to a statement of us beating the Aussies in the table.

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Re: Summer Olympics/Paralympics, Tokyo, delayed to 2021
« Reply #322 on: August 13, 2021, 08:29:40 AM »
So does the relay class as one or four medals lost if the doping is proven?

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Re: Summer Olympics/Paralympics, Tokyo, delayed to 2021
« Reply #323 on: August 13, 2021, 08:43:28 AM »
All four competitors lose their medal but it would only count as one silver lost on the medal table. Canada would swap their bronze for silver, China gains a bronze. None of the changes affect the generally-accepted medal table, GB would have to lose two golds to fall below "Russia", assuming that none of their gold medalists were disqualified.

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Re: Summer Olympics/Paralympics, Tokyo, delayed to 2021
« Reply #324 on: August 13, 2021, 09:02:08 AM »
I thought this was quite interesting, a comparison to between medals won and funding received for the various UK sports at the Olympics.  Was a bit suprosed to see that rowing had the highest amount of investment, which is now going to be cut because they performed so poorly. Swimming gets a lot less by comparison and they do much, much better.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/58112331



Interesting figures there. Cycling is a broad church. There was a lot more investment to the track cycling in comparison to Women's BMX for example. Beth Shriever had little to no income yet managed to bring home the gold. I'm amazed at some of the amounts and wonder where all the cash is used.

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Re: Summer Olympics/Paralympics, Tokyo, delayed to 2021
« Reply #325 on: August 13, 2021, 09:45:52 AM »
Not sure you can argue swimming does much much better when there are so many medals you aren't comparing like with like. If there were a hundred rowing medals up for grabs we would probably have won quite a few.

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Re: Summer Olympics/Paralympics, Tokyo, delayed to 2021
« Reply #326 on: August 13, 2021, 01:05:51 PM »
I thought this was quite interesting, a comparison to between medals won and funding received for the various UK sports at the Olympics.  Was a bit suprosed to see that rowing had the highest amount of investment, which is now going to be cut because they performed so poorly. Swimming gets a lot less by comparison and they do much, much better.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/olympics/58112331



Interesting figures there. Cycling is a broad church. There was a lot more investment to the track cycling in comparison to Women's BMX for example. Beth Shriever had little to no income yet managed to bring home the gold. I'm amazed at some of the amounts and wonder where all the cash is used.

Facilities, coaching staff and other needed roles, paying the "chosen" athletes to be able to afford to reduce or give up work entirely to concentrate on the sport. I expect the sporting bodies input requirements like "this funding period we need £8mil to upgrade the So and So facility which will improve our chances of....." and get the payment but so much isn't needed next time. Hence the stupidly high canoeing costs compared to Athletics, although a lot of the key Athletics people probably earn a lot so don't need money directly as well compared to canoeists ("who are they?" "exactly").

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Re: Summer Olympics/Paralympics, Tokyo, delayed to 2021
« Reply #327 on: August 26, 2021, 09:11:50 AM »
Paralympics anyone?

Dame Sarah Storey showing almost 30 years at the top and still unbeatable.

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Re: Summer Olympics/Paralympics, Tokyo, delayed to 2021
« Reply #328 on: August 26, 2021, 02:08:09 PM »
Someone needs to explain to Clare Boulding that no one gives a fuck about equine sports.  I'm sure she stuck Charlotte Doujardin in the top 10 British Olympic moments and she's at it again during the Paralympics.

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Re: Summer Olympics/Paralympics, Tokyo, delayed to 2021
« Reply #329 on: September 01, 2021, 06:47:50 PM »
A little bit surprised to see the men's 6-7 table tennis semi final didn't end in a brawl.

 


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