FFP

[AV82EC]

This gigs thing is a red herring for me, yes it helps Spurs but their real commercial and sponsorship income is where they dwarf ours, that’s the key to this not a few concerts.

[Chris Harte]

The commercial income for the last available period was £83m (Villa) vs £330m (Spurs).

Between FoS, Sleeve and kit Villa earned £39m vs £100m for Spurs. Those three things surpassed our total commercial income for the year.

[Percy McCarthy]

The commercial income for the last available period was £83m (Villa) vs £330m (Spurs).

Between FoS, Sleeve and kit Villa earned £39m vs £100m for Spurs. Those three things surpassed our total commercial income for the year.

This is true, but ours has almost quadrupled in four years, and doubled from 2024 to 2025. We’ve made a fortune out of the academy, and we’ve only just begun heavily investing in infrastructure. I think we can get closer to the Slimey 6 in revenue, and I also think that the 14th richest club in the world should be able to compete at sport with the 9th richest, especially when we’re all allowed the same number of players. Look at the league table.

[Dante Lavelli]

Interesting. The size of the stadium will have minimal impact on the value of sponsorship deals. Keep winning and these deals should follow.

[Chris Harte]

The commercial income for the last available period was £83m (Villa) vs £330m (Spurs).

Between FoS, Sleeve and kit Villa earned £39m vs £100m for Spurs. Those three things surpassed our total commercial income for the year.

This is true, but ours has almost quadrupled in four years, and doubled from 2024 to 2025. We’ve made a fortune out of the academy, and we’ve only just begun heavily investing in infrastructure. I think we can get closer to the Slimey 6 in revenue, and I also think that the 14th richest club in the world should be able to compete at sport with the 9th richest, especially when we’re all allowed the same number of players. Look at the league table.

I can't argue with any of that.

I feel that the betting ban on FoS has come at the wrong time for Villa. I'm sure this will negatively impact on what we get for the next FoS. Even if it turns out the annual figure is more than the £20m p/s of the Betano deal, I'm sure with betting still permissible it would have been a bigger figure.

[Chris Harte]

Not sure if the following figures are relevant, but a ratio of FoS & Sleeve & Kit to Total Commercial for the most recent period.

Villa 47% (£39m/£83m).
Newcastle 52% (£72.5m/£139m).
Arsenal 43% (£135m/£314m)
Liverpool 33% (£122m/£366m)
Man City 46% (£187.5m/£408m)
Man Utd 43% (£170m/£397m)
Spurs 30% (£100m/£330m).

I suppose our ratio is similar to others, however I'm surprised Liverpool's isn't a lower figure, and ditto for Man United, given their global appeal over many decades. I also thought Newcastle would be further ahead of us.

[Beard82]

Why would newcastle be twice ours - is that UCL!  Was our lower than the previous year?