FFP

[Olneythelonely]

We tried to get it changed officially, so that the need for skullduggery was less likely needed. Clubs thought that would mean we’re a bigger threat, so voted against it. Fuck them.

[Drummond]

The Chelsea deal is fine. Maatsen is a Champions League player, coming to a Champions League club. Kellyman is a good young prospect that many fans are unhappy to see leave, which is why he's heading to another team on European football.

Luiz is going to the most famous Italian club, for good money, at the right time contract wise. Iling Junior is a great young prospect, coming back to England, to develop with a Champions League side. Barrenechea is another top prospect, with good experience who we need as cover for central midfield.

Iroegbunam is a good player, who needs more game time, but he's leaving a Champions League side and going further down the Premier League, which all makes sense.

Which leaves Dobbin. A good prospect, moving to a Champions League side (hence the bump in fee), who could set the world alight under a progressive, great manager. Nobody is letting their youth go cheap if they have anything about them.

We're in a difficult situation PSR wise, so we're working on solutions, and the naive seems to be a good solution. Nobody would blink if these deals happened in August, but we're bucking the trend, and doing business early as it suits us, and suits the other clubs we're dealing with.

[Somniloquism]

The only thing they can do is ensure the transfer fees are not inflated. And they’ve no real chance if proving that.

We just need to point them back two years to Chukky. Same experience as Kellyman, same potential as Kellyman, same cost as Kellyman.

[lovejoy]

The idiocy of having a clubs FFP measured to June and a transfer window that runs to August is striking.

[LeeB]

The Athletic piece makes another point about the Everton deals, in that it allows them breathing space to fend off low ball bids for Branthwaite from Man Utd, which I sense is where much of the complaints originate.

[brontebilly]

The idiocy of having a clubs FFP measured to June and a transfer window that runs to August is striking.

Agreed, that beggars belief.

[Mr Diggles]

Fuck 'em all. The league and Sky have done as much as anyone to turn this sport into a business - well, everything we've done this summer is completely in line with the current accounting regulations for businesses and the relevant accounting standards.

They are reciprocal deals? Yeah sure, so what?
The values are inflated? Isn't this what has been happening for years under a number of leagues? The truth is the market value of a player is only exactly the amount a buyer is willing to buy at and a selling club is willing to sell at (with some moderation <cough, Juventus, cough>)
Is it an abuse of young players trying to bridge the gap between U21s and First Team? Maybe, but for us at least that gap has widened since Emery etc transformed our fortunes, so the days of a youngster breaking through from our Academy seem even further away now. So the only chance they have to progress is going to be away from Villa Park unless they are exceptional.

I understand it might appear to be a fudge from the outside, but it really isn't and the club has nothing to apologise for. The PSR rules themselves are absurd as many have said, and to be honest, there are plenty of other places to look for moral and ethincal corrosion in the Premier League universe before they start looking at these deals.

Yeah, fuck 'em all.

[Risso]

Any questions at all re the values of our players. Simply print out the list of Man U’s top 20 signings by value, slap it on the Premier League’s desk, then turn on our heels and walk out without saying a word.

[LeeB]

Any questions at all re the values of our players. Simply print out the list of Man U’s top 20 signings by value, slap it on the Premier League’s desk, then turn on our heels and walk out without saying a word.

Just "Anthony - £82m plus add ons" would suffice.

[Monty]

I honestly don't quite see how it's any more nefarious than swap deals have always been.

[Drummond]

This will blow over soon enough. It's a good thing that we're being noticed though.

[Risso]

Fuck 'em all. The league and Sky have done as much as anyone to turn this sport into a business - well, everything we've done this summer is completely in line with the current accounting regulations for businesses and the relevant accounting standards.

They are reciprocal deals? Yeah sure, so what?
The values are inflated? Isn't this what has been happening for years under a number of leagues? The truth is the market value of a player is only exactly the amount a buyer is willing to buy at and a selling club is willing to sell at (with some moderation <cough, Juventus, cough>)
Is it an abuse of young players trying to bridge the gap between U21s and First Team? Maybe, but for us at least that gap has widened since Emery etc transformed our fortunes, so the days of a youngster breaking through from our Academy seem even further away now. So the only chance they have to progress is going to be away from Villa Park unless they are exceptional.

I understand it might appear to be a fudge from the outside, but it really isn't and the club has nothing to apologise for. The PSR rules themselves are absurd as many have said, and to be honest, there are plenty of other places to look for moral and ethincal corrosion in the Premier League universe before they start looking at these deals.

Yeah, fuck 'em all.

Honestly, fuck them. We tried to play nicely and ask for an increase in losses, but that wasn't allowed. So now we're just going to sell players, like the rules pretty much demand.

[PeterWithe]

In the future will we ever know what value of players we needed to sell, or does it only come out if you are charged for non-compliance?

[Somniloquism]

The idiocy of having a clubs FFP measured to June and a transfer window that runs to August is striking.

Why? There has to be a cut off and most player contracts usually end on 30th June anyway as it has traditionally been the end of the "season" date.

[jwarry]

The Athletic piece makes another point about the Everton deals, in that it allows them breathing space to fend off low ball bids for Branthwaite from Man Utd, which I sense is where much of the complaints originate.

I think you’ve just hit the nail on the head