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[curiousorange]

Still not really a solution, is it? The best squads will stay the best squads and the pretenders will have no way of disrupting them.

[Steve67]

Losing touch with what's going on with Man City.  Is there a date set for their, er, trial?

[sid1964]

With regards to City, does anyone know what the charges are against them?

Heard of a podcast that a few of their charges are about grass length, size of dressing rooms etc...

[Ads]

One of them is paying Mancini a larger salary through a separate company.

[Risso]

https://www.premierleague.com/news/3045970


Charges in that link. Nothing to do with grass or changing rooms, everything to do with being fraudulent twats.

[Somniloquism]

With regards to City, does anyone know what the charges are against them?

Heard of a podcast that a few of their charges are about grass length, size of dressing rooms etc...

I would start listening to a proper podcast then as the one you are listening to is making stuff up.

[tomd2103]

With regards to City, does anyone know what the charges are against them?

Heard of a podcast that a few of their charges are about grass length, size of dressing rooms etc...

Was Graeme Souness on that podcast?

[PeterWithesShin]

Beeb have an article up using a lot of the info from Keiran Maguire

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68713522

[Michael Cornwall]

Doug used to put an appeal in the programme asking
 for volunteers to sell raffle tickets to raise funds. At
 the time we were European bleedin' Champions. What a visionary.

[Goldenballs]

What if this 'luxury tax' or whatever it is called was pretty hefty, and was shared out between clubs who hadn't breached the spending rules.

[Rigadon]

What if this 'luxury tax' or whatever it is called was pretty hefty, and was shared out between clubs who hadn't breached the spending rules.

That'll be the kickback that the likes of Brentford and Bournemouth et al might go for when it comes to a vote on rule changes.  It'd be another glass ceiling for clubs not owned by oil states, who have unlimited funds.  It's just another scheme to allow unlimited spending for a few clubs and would probably hasten the arrival of even more state ownership.  Unless you're literally talking about billions, any kind 'tax' would be meaningless. 

[Goldenballs]

What if this 'luxury tax' or whatever it is called was pretty hefty, and was shared out between clubs who hadn't breached the spending rules.

That'll be the kickback that the likes of Brentford and Bournemouth et al might go for when it comes to a vote on rule changes.  It'd be another glass ceiling for clubs not owned by oil states, who have unlimited funds.  It's just another scheme to allow unlimited spending for a few clubs and would probably hasten the arrival of even more state ownership.  Unless you're literally talking about billions, any kind 'tax' would be meaningless. 

It might be meaningless to begin with, but if the big clubs continued to piss money up the wall on shit like Chelsea and Man Utd have done, then on top of that they're strengthening better run clubs, the smaller better run clubs like Brighton won't have to constantly have their best players picked off, or can ask for even sillier fees.

Just a thought really.

[Percy McCarthy]

Apparently, this luxury tax system is used by the NBA, so Wes will have experience of it.

[Smithy]

Something needs to change, to prevent uber-wealthy owners subsidising loss-making clubs "indefinitely".  I think the "indefinitely" part is important. I genuinely don't have an issue with new club owners throwing their money around a bit when they take over - it's always been done that way in the premier league, going back to Jack Walker and Blackburn - but it has to be done in such a way that the club is "self-sustaining" after a certain point.

Maybe a wealth tax would be enough to stop the uber-wealthy clubs running at a loss every year; maybe it wouldn't. And that's the risk.  If some state-owned team is willing to pay £500m+ a year in wealth tax to the other teams in the league to ensure their position at the top of the league, then the competition itself would die.  But, in principle, I don't mind the idea of them throwing a couple of billion quid at improving their stadium, squad, and infrastructure over a "few" years, as long as, say, by year 5 the club is running on a sound financial footing, at which point there are some huge sporting penalties that kick in for financial breaches.

It would allow all clubs to dream of having a wealthy owner to elevate them to the top of the game, while also removing the safety of a 'blank cheque' that would keep them there indefinitely.

I don't know. There are probably a million unseen holes and unintended consequences in this idea, but I do think something needs to change to prevent the competition element from disappearing for good.

[SamTheMouse]

The idea is really only designed to benefit one club and that's Saudi United. The likes of Abu Dhabi, Liverpool, Yanited and even Arsenal already have huge revenues and anything that enables clubs with lower income to match their spending is only going to eat into their current financial advantage.