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[Percy McCarthy]

Back to our case, I make it we’re due over £5m in prize money alone from our UECL run so far:

https://www.90min.com/posts/uefa-prize-money-how-much-champions-league-europa-league-conference-league-winners-earn

[Dogtanian]

Back to our case, I make it we’re due over £5m in prize money alone from our UECL run so far:

https://www.90min.com/posts/uefa-prize-money-how-much-champions-league-europa-league-conference-league-winners-earn

I've found this site quite helpful;

https://www.football-coefficient.eu/team/958-aston-villa/

Works it out to about £7.6m.

The attendances and prices for the home games probably add another £7m on if we sell out the QF.

I'm assuming there's no sharing of gate receipts between both teams in these games as there's a home and away leg.

[Percy McCarthy]

Back to our case, I make it we’re due over £5m in prize money alone from our UECL run so far:

https://www.90min.com/posts/uefa-prize-money-how-much-champions-league-europa-league-conference-league-winners-earn

I've found this site quite helpful;

https://www.football-coefficient.eu/team/958-aston-villa/

Works it out to about £7.6m.

The attendances and prices for the home games probably add another £7m on if we sell out the QF.

I'm assuming there's no sharing of gate receipts between both teams in these games as there's a home and away leg.

Good stuff, cheers Dog.

[LeeS]

Ratty's plans are to build in the general area of Trafford, but not on the exact same spot which is very similar to what Arsenal did. And isn't Old Trafford falling apart now if he wanted to talk Shitholes......

Most Yanited fans would acknowledge Old Trafford is in a very poor state, but many would still rather redevelop their historic home than move to a new stadium (even if it's in the area). Can't say I blame them.

The trouble is they are in the same boat we are that the surrounding land doesn't give much options in expanding further. The canal and railway pinch off three sides and then what looks like a very busy freight terminal further up. So they would either have to "do a Spurs" and play elsewhere for two seasons whilst a new ground is built on part of the old ones foot print, rebuild a stand at a time with the loss of spectators that will now bring, or build elsewhere and move across.

There's enough space behind the Stretford End to build a complete new stadium that's just a car park at present.

I covered that in do a Spurs bit where they would need to knock down Old Trafford and move the whole stand to encompass the car park. If they can buy out the railway freight yard as well then they could build without ground sharing for two years.

As I understand it, most of the land around there is owned by Peel, a massive developer.  They would probably bend over backwards to accommodate Man U because a new stadium could be the catalyst to regenerate the whole area. 

We need that bit of luck where BCC/the government are trying to shift a parcel of land big enough for a stadium as I think the other pieces (Atairos, fanbase etc) are already in place.

There is a spot next door to the IWM of the North that is ideal. I don't know who approves CPAs but if its Burnham then no-one will stop United building on those warehouses. A whacking great stadium is one of the most prestigious builds in any city. Birmingham and Manchester should be falling over themselves to make these things happen.

[PeterWithesShin]

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[tomd2103]

There’s a good point in the articulation of Forest’s deduction, it’s not so much punishment for Forest as it is fairness on other clubs. I think that’s the point really, they fully deserved what they got. Yes they might argue it was more financially prudent to wait and get more money for Johnson - but it was their poor management up to that point that had got them in the position that they should have accepted less and met the required deadline.

I didn't agree with Everton's points deduction and don't agree with Forest's.

Divide and rule.

It's convenient for the PL to pick off and effectively blame smaller fry for being ambitious (initially, as Everyon were under Koeman and then Ancelotti). Or merely just wanting to survive, as Forest did last year.

Whilst ignoring the petrodollar sugarbags at the top gaming the system.

That's the key point for me.  That's two clubs now who have been punished, yet they still can't even state a date for when the hearing is going to be held for Manchester  City.  The longer that goes on , the more credibility the league loses, especially if they end up winning the league again. 

My bet would be that they are allowed to finish this season without any punishment and then the rules are changed in the summer, which will then significantly lessen the impact of any punishment on them.

[Simon Page]

Modern football and capitalism (amiritekids) inadvertently summed up by exactly the right person:

West Ham owner David Sullivan told Sky Sports: "The Premier League is the best league in the world so why change a winning formula?

"I hope the government don't wreck something that works. If over the coming seasons the Premier League ceases to be the best league in the world, it will be down to an interfering government."

He added: "Between the 20 clubs there is almost £2bn of debt, so there isn't really 'available cash' to give away."

Everything's great, although we're all bang on the edge of financial disaster.

[ChicagoLion]

I understand the fear tomd but I do not think Liverpool and Man U will let this slide, so unless some back door quid pro quo is reached with them something will have to be seen to be done.
The PL backers do not need Citeh, they are almost an irrelevance commercially in comparison to the big 2 ( in global fan base terms).

[Drummond]

Everton was one charge, Forest was one charge and they engaged and cooperated throughout. Man City have 115 charges, aren't complying at all, are delaying at every opportunity and thus it's taking a lot longer.

The book has to be thrown at them, in the strongest possible terms, otherwise it's all pointless and there will be litigation galore from lots of other clubs which could finish the Premier League.

My only concern is that the government try to get involved to smooth the process because Abu Dhabi threaten to withdraw funding etc. You can see from the government intervening to help the Saudis take over Newcastle for precedence.

[PeterWithe]

The PL backers do not need Citeh, they are almost an irrelevance commercially in comparison to the big 2 ( in global fan base terms).

They are at the moment but LFC and ManYoo only have a global fanbase because they have been as successful in the past as City are now. I'd guess your average kid on the streets of Karachi just about to start supporting a team and spending money on 'merch' is more than likely to pick the new kids on the block over either of them.

[pauliewalnuts]

https://vipfootballhospitality.com/tickets/aston-villa/

170 quid a head for LG v Wolves.

That's a hefty mark-up, I thought it was a 70 quid add-on to seat cost?

[chrisw1]

Everton was one charge, Forest was one charge and they engaged and cooperated throughout. Man City have 115 charges, aren't complying at all, are delaying at every opportunity and thus it's taking a lot longer.

The book has to be thrown at them, in the strongest possible terms, otherwise it's all pointless and there will be litigation galore from lots of other clubs which could finish the Premier League.

My only concern is that the government try to get involved to smooth the process because Abu Dhabi threaten to withdraw funding etc. You can see from the government intervening to help the Saudis take over Newcastle for precedence.

If they are really going at them hard then surely there should be interim sanctions.  If you don't supply this information by this date then you will be suspended from this competition etc.  Rather than crowning them again with yet more trophies that they have cheated their way to, with the media continuing to fawn over their greatness.

It doesn't feel to me at all like the book has been thrown at them.  If it has, it was a gentle underarm lob.

[PeterWithesShin]

https://vipfootballhospitality.com/tickets/aston-villa/

170 quid a head for LG v Wolves.

That's a hefty mark-up, I thought it was a 70 quid add-on to seat cost?

£499 for LG v Liverpool on that site.

[pauliewalnuts]

Everton was one charge, Forest was one charge and they engaged and cooperated throughout. Man City have 115 charges, aren't complying at all, are delaying at every opportunity and thus it's taking a lot longer.

The book has to be thrown at them, in the strongest possible terms, otherwise it's all pointless and there will be litigation galore from lots of other clubs which could finish the Premier League.

My only concern is that the government try to get involved to smooth the process because Abu Dhabi threaten to withdraw funding etc. You can see from the government intervening to help the Saudis take over Newcastle for precedence.

If they are really going at them hard then surely there should be interim sanctions.  If you don't supply this information by this date then you will be suspended from this competition etc.  Rather than crowning them again with yet more trophies that they have cheated their way to, with the media continuing to fawn over their greatness.

It doesn't feel to me at all like the book has been thrown at them.  If it has, it was a gentle underarm lob.

There is zero chance Man City get the book thrown at them.

Firstly, because in doing so, the PL would be admitting that their championship has effectively been cheated for the last 10 (or however many) years, thus dealing the brand a pretty hefty blow, and there is zero doubt they care more about money than they do sporting integrity.

Secondly, because it's owned by an oil rich nation we'd do almost anything to stay on the right side of.

[VILLA MOLE]

https://vipfootballhospitality.com/tickets/aston-villa/

Yes this came up on my facebook .  Glorified touts !