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Offline DB

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Re: FFP
« Reply #990 on: March 01, 2024, 11:14:09 PM »
Blimey, do we need a Summer 2024, sales, fears, worst expectations and rumours thread???

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Re: FFP
« Reply #991 on: March 02, 2024, 01:40:46 AM »
Taking age and potential into account I think there's only Luiz, Torres and Kamara I'd choose to keep over Ramsey. We have a lot of very good players int he squad right now but a fair few of them are in, or close to, their 30s now so I'd not want to sell any of the younger players if we can hlep it, they'll need to be at the heart of a new first 11 in a few years so we'd just be creating problems for us down the line.

Pains me thar we are even having to have this conversation at a time when we should be looking at building the squad further. 

I really wouldn't want to sell Ramsey, for as this season has shown, he plays a role which is very difficult to replace.  If it came down to it, I would probably sell Kamara or Luiz before Ramsey, as central midfielders woukd be easier to replace.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #992 on: March 02, 2024, 05:18:20 PM »
What if the 138 is just a paper loss because we re-evaluated the value of an asset or two? Not sure what land we own other than VP and Bodymoor.

Alternatively, what's the betting on us getting hit with a points deduction in May that is exactly enough for Manure to overhaul us, assuming we finish above them.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #993 on: March 02, 2024, 06:27:31 PM »
Taking age and potential into account I think there's only Luiz, Torres and Kamara I'd choose to keep over Ramsey. We have a lot of very good players int he squad right now but a fair few of them are in, or close to, their 30s now so I'd not want to sell any of the younger players if we can hlep it, they'll need to be at the heart of a new first 11 in a few years so we'd just be creating problems for us down the line.

Pains me thar we are even having to have this conversation at a time when we should be looking at building the squad further. 

I really wouldn't want to sell Ramsey, for as this season has shown, he plays a role which is very difficult to replace.  If it came down to it, I would probably sell Kamara or Luiz before Ramsey, as central midfielders woukd be easier to replace.

Kamara maybe. But luiz? No chance

One of the biggest key players we have

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Re: FFP
« Reply #994 on: March 04, 2024, 11:27:38 AM »
There's value in our squad of that there's no doubt. However, in terms of the monetary value and the value to the team, that's a different ball-game altogether.

We may be in a position where we need to sell to buy, and if that's the case, you'd also expect us to need to sell for more than we buy for (due to the potential losses and how tight things are).

There are some players I just think we shouldn't be looking to sell regardless and they'd be:

Martinez
Konsa
Torres
Kamara
Watkins
Ramsey

(Very) close behind are:

Luiz
McGinn
Bailey
Mings
Buendia

Other than that, whilst I'd rather not lose players, Moreno, Digne, Tielemans, Cash, spring to mind, I'd still think they were saleable (though only one of the LBs).

We've got a bunch of players that are already likely to go:

Coutinho
Dendoncker
Chambers
Zaniolo (end of loan)
Lenglet (end of loan)

Then there's players who we'd probably not be gutted about going:

Duran
Carlos

Obviously the squad is strengthened with Mings, Buendia and Kamara to return at some point.





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Re: FFP
« Reply #995 on: March 04, 2024, 11:47:41 AM »
I'm sure we're close to FFP limits but I can't believe we would have signed Rogers and the young right back if there was any chance of us going over the threshold.  It just doesn't stack up to me.

We may well need to sell a big player to allow us room to keep building, but I'd be amazed if we had got ourselves in a position where we need a forced sale this financial year.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #996 on: March 04, 2024, 11:52:30 AM »
Above list.

Definitely keep;

Martinez
Konsa
Torres
Kamara
Watkins
Ramsey
Douglas Luiz
Bailey

(Very) close behind are:

McGinn
Mings

Potentially saleable;

Moreno
Digne
Cash
Buendia

Likely to go;

Coutinho
Dendoncker
Chambers
Zaniolo (end of loan)
Lenglet (end of loan)

Not concerned if gone;

Duran
Carlos

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Re: FFP
« Reply #997 on: March 04, 2024, 11:56:09 AM »
Accounts are overdue according to Companies House.

It's interesting that the paperwork for extending the current financial year to the end of June was only filed after the January window had closed.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #998 on: March 04, 2024, 11:56:12 AM »
Definitely keep;

Martinez
Konsa
Torres
Kamara
Watkins
Ramsey
Douglas Luiz
Bailey

(Very) close behind are:

McGinn
Mings

Potentially saleable;

Moreno
Digne
Cash
Buendia

Likely to go;

Coutinho
Dendoncker
Chambers
Zaniolo (end of loan)
Lenglet (end of loan)

Not concerned if gone;

Duran
Carlos


I mostly agree on this but I think it's a bit unfair on Duran who I think could become a very good player and is younger than players that aren't even listed because they're 'one for the future'.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #999 on: March 04, 2024, 11:57:36 AM »
Accounts are overdue according to Companies House.

It's interesting that the paperwork for extending the current financial year to the end of June was only filed after the January window had closed.

The accounts aren't actually overdue, it just takes Companies House a few days to make them visible after they're uploaded by the company. And yes, from this year we've made the accounting end date the same as the season, ie end of June rather than 31 May.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1000 on: March 04, 2024, 12:02:01 PM »
Accounts are overdue according to Companies House.

It's interesting that the paperwork for extending the current financial year to the end of June was only filed after the January window had closed.

The accounts aren't actually overdue, it just takes Companies House a few days to make them visible after they're uploaded by the company. And yes, from this year we've made the accounting end date the same as the season, ie end of June rather than 31 May.

If the length of time they've taken to remove me as a director of a scam company I have nothing to do with is any indicator we'll be waiting a good deal longer.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1001 on: March 04, 2024, 12:09:26 PM »
Are the accounts out this week ?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1002 on: March 04, 2024, 12:10:32 PM »
I mostly agree on this but I think it's a bit unfair on Duran who I think could become a very good player and is younger than players that aren't even listed because they're 'one for the future'.

Fair point. Maybe a loan for him instead.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1003 on: March 04, 2024, 12:12:53 PM »
Are the accounts out this week ?

Should be.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #1004 on: March 04, 2024, 02:56:31 PM »
I'm sure we're close to FFP limits but I can't believe we would have signed Rogers and the young right back if there was any chance of us going over the threshold.  It just doesn't stack up to me.

We may well need to sell a big player to allow us room to keep building, but I'd be amazed if we had got ourselves in a position where we need a forced sale this financial year.

Or a points deduction that strips us of a CL place

 


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