FFP

[Sexual Ealing]

That's a shame.

[VILLA MOLE]

Chelsea are fucked.

Some crazy numbers

[Dante Lavelli]

Has anyone confirmed if our new youngsters qualify as youth players so excluded from FFP calculations?  Seems an obvious place we can throw cash if that loophole exists.  Our Spanish/Portuguese partners hoovering up the European talent.

Mate, it really doesn't work like that. If you spend money on a player, then they go into the FFP calculations, simple as that, regardless of their age.

Cheers Risso. I’ve read it in a few places so appreciate the clarification.

[Risso]

No worries. I just didn't want you to make Sexual Ealing sad!

[PaulWinch again]

What’s happened with Everton’s appeal i thought it was happening on Wednesday?

[Brazilian Villain]

Chelsea are fucked.

Lukaku, £19.5m with 2 years left.

I'd forgotten he was still their player.

[Risso]

What’s happened with Everton’s appeal i thought it was happening on Wednesday?

It started this week, and is expected to last a few days. Decision will be out later this month.

[pablo_picasso]

What’s happened with Everton’s appeal i thought it was happening on Wednesday?

I think it started Weds, but should finish today.

The Liverpool Echo mentioned that it should be publicly announced mid February...

[VILLA MOLE]

Chelsea are fucked.

Lukaku, £19.5m with 2 years left.

I'd forgotten he was still their player.

So they are saying on Sky they need to raise £100 million by end of June ?

[Dogtanian]

The Premier League prize money payments are in.

We are 7th (strangely enough) with £148.3m. I think we got £122m the previous season.

https://theathletic.com/5246560/2024/02/02/premier-league-payments-merit-man-city/

[PeterWithesShin]

If you want one of the most bonkers player deals of all time then look no further than Bobby Bonilla. Bobby was a pretty good baseball player, he retired in 2001. Because the Mets gave him a big contract when they signed him, to get rid of him they agreed to pay him $1.19m every year on July 1st. Every year since 2011. And will continue to do so until 2035. 24 years of $1.19m. Mets chose to do deferred payments rather than pay the remaining $5.9m they owed in one lump sum when they wanted to release him.
July 1st is called Bobby Bonilla Day by Mets fans.

Bobby also gets $500k a year from the Orioles, those payments started in 2004 and are for 25 years.

[Risso]

Sounds like David O'Leary.

[PaulWinch again]

Ah thanks all.

[Smithy]

Has anyone confirmed if our new youngsters qualify as youth players so excluded from FFP calculations?  Seems an obvious place we can throw cash if that loophole exists.  Our Spanish/Portuguese partners hoovering up the European talent.

Mate, it really doesn't work like that. If you spend money on a player, then they go into the FFP calculations, simple as that, regardless of their age.

Cheers Risso. I’ve read it in a few places so appreciate the clarification.

I think people have misinterpreted "investing in youth programmes and facilities being outside FFP calculations" as meaning you can buy youth players outside FFP calculations. It does not, as Risso said. It just means you can invest heavily in your academy - facilities and coaching - and those costs don't have to be included in your FFP calculation. 

So if you have rich owners, who are looking for something within the club where they can spend money easily, youth development is the perfect place.  Round up the best local talent from a young age, give them the very best coaching and facilities you possibly can, and then if they don't make the first team, flip them for a profit.  Sound familiar?

[Stu]

Apparently Villa have reported a €138m loss before tax for 2023, one of the biggest ever losses recorded, with player wages taking up 70% of turnover. Bit of a critical situation which makes CL qualification this season all the more important.

Edit - see here: https://editorial.uefa.com/resources/028a-1a2f899177e2-b3619612eaa4-1000/uefaeuropeanclubfinanceinvestmentlandscape_150224.pdf