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Online Brazilian Villain

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4725 on: June 25, 2025, 07:49:22 PM »
Mr Popodopolous is still (2 hours ago) going on about our FFP position.

Offline eamonn

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4726 on: June 25, 2025, 08:18:47 PM »
If UEFA are pooh-poohing (sic) Chelsea's sale of their women to themselves, and our bigger problem is wages to revenue ratio, is it worth following in their wake ?

Offline Matt C

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4727 on: June 25, 2025, 08:30:42 PM »
Maybe we’ll do a lighter version of the Chelsea deal and sell a stake to an investor.

Online Brazilian Villain

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4728 on: June 25, 2025, 08:34:15 PM »
Maybe we’ll do a lighter version of the Chelsea deal and sell a stake to an investor.

We'd probably get more if the Women's thread was stickied.

Offline Somniloquism

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4729 on: June 25, 2025, 09:15:04 PM »
If UEFA are pooh-poohing (sic) Chelsea's sale of their women to themselves, and our bigger problem is wages to revenue ratio, is it worth following in their wake ?

Helps us with the PL side of things though. Better chances of finishing in top 4 and then more revenue options which means wages to turnover improves anyway.

Offline paul_e

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4730 on: June 25, 2025, 10:35:03 PM »
If UEFA are pooh-poohing (sic) Chelsea's sale of their women to themselves, and our bigger problem is wages to revenue ratio, is it worth following in their wake ?

Helps us with the PL side of things though. Better chances of finishing in top 4 and then more revenue options which means wages to turnover improves anyway.

PL PSR is pretty irrelevant after this week. Once we into a new accounting year we have a 90m loss drop off the accounts and there's no chance we will come close to that next season. After that it will almost certainly make way for a similar squad cost system to uefa.

Offline Bent Neilsens Screamer

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4731 on: June 25, 2025, 10:46:20 PM »
Those are ridiculous  punishments  tbf. The fines are peanuts to a majority of clubs

£56m (for PSG in the article) is quite hefty, the Man U one less so!!

Offline sid1964

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4732 on: June 26, 2025, 08:07:04 AM »
Hopefully we don’t follow the cheating Chelsea model and we overcome our FFP issue by some other means.


Online Marlon From Bearwood

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4733 on: June 26, 2025, 08:33:53 AM »
Hopefully we don’t follow the cheating Chelsea model and we overcome our FFP issue by some other means.



In an ideal world, yes. But if Chelsea have utilised this loophole and it’s an option for us to significantly improve our PSR situation then we might have to just hold our nose and do it. PL clubs didn’t vote to close the loophole so I assume others are considering it.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4734 on: June 26, 2025, 08:35:42 AM »
We had no compunction in selling our ground to ourselves when we needed to do this in the Championship to comply with EFL FFP so doing it with the women’s team is a no brainer in my book. Crack on….

In fact if the value we get means we don’t need to sell a player next year then get on with it.

Bearing in mind Chelsea did a deal for £200m what would we get? My initial total wild stab in the dark guess would be between £20-£50m.
« Last Edit: June 26, 2025, 08:39:39 AM by AV82EC »

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4735 on: June 26, 2025, 09:15:33 AM »
We had no compunction in selling our ground to ourselves when we needed to do this in the Championship to comply with EFL FFP so doing it with the women’s team is a no brainer in my book. Crack on….

In fact if the value we get means we don’t need to sell a player next year then get on with it.

Bearing in mind Chelsea did a deal for £200m what would we get? My initial total wild stab in the dark guess would be between £20-£50m.

The Chelsea valuation is nothing to do with the standing of their women’s team today. It’s a projection of what it might one day be worth, 20/25 years from now. That’s what the bloke who paid £20m for a 10% stake said anyway. So there’s no reason we can’t pay ourselves as much as Chelsea did.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4736 on: June 26, 2025, 09:18:20 AM »
We had no compunction in selling our ground to ourselves when we needed to do this in the Championship to comply with EFL FFP so doing it with the women’s team is a no brainer in my book. Crack on….

In fact if the value we get means we don’t need to sell a player next year then get on with it.

Bearing in mind Chelsea did a deal for £200m what would we get? My initial total wild stab in the dark guess would be between £20-£50m.
It does not work like that re valuation. Is based on value in 25 years time not now, so no reason to discount if Chelsea figure is justified.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4737 on: June 26, 2025, 09:28:38 AM »
I would suggest that by nature of the fact that Chelsea is a London team and part of a franchise that has multiple years of success in men’s and women’s football it has a higher intrinsic value.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4738 on: June 26, 2025, 09:39:04 AM »
We had no compunction in selling our ground to ourselves when we needed to do this in the Championship to comply with EFL FFP so doing it with the women’s team is a no brainer in my book. Crack on….

In fact if the value we get means we don’t need to sell a player next year then get on with it.

Bearing in mind Chelsea did a deal for £200m what would we get? My initial total wild stab in the dark guess would be between £20-£50m.

The Chelsea valuation is nothing to do with the standing of their women’s team today. It’s a projection of what it might one day be worth, 20/25 years from now. That’s what the bloke who paid £20m for a 10% stake said anyway. So there’s no reason we can’t pay ourselves as much as Chelsea did.

Thanks Percy wasn’t aware of that. Though my estimate was based on the fact that Chelsea are a very successful women’s club currently and despite being in the WSL for a few years we’re nowhere near that level as CL has described. Ah well we’ll see.

Offline paul_e

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Re: FFP
« Reply #4739 on: June 26, 2025, 10:31:30 AM »
Chelsea may have more success but it doesn't really matter all that much. Women's football is on a big growth trajectory and that will work a sa rising tide for every side in the big leagues over the next decade or 2. £150m (which has been mentioned a few times) feels like a reasonable valuation for us if they were £200m.

 


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