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Offline Percy McCarthy

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3690 on: October 08, 2024, 07:30:50 AM »
Newcastle are going to be licking their lips at this news. Then its game over for everyone else

You don’t understand the judgement do you?

Offline Demitri_C

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3691 on: October 08, 2024, 07:54:05 AM »
Newcastle are going to be licking their lips at this news. Then its game over for everyone else

You don’t understand the judgement do you?

I meant in terms of being able to pay the best lawyers to get winning cases against the premier league like citeh appear to be doing

Offline LeonW

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3692 on: October 08, 2024, 07:54:13 AM »
I must admit, my lay person’s interpretation of the judgement is that actually, Man City didn’t win. It was more that  their ‘wins’ were on processing time of their sponsorship was slower than expected, the premier league didn’t share their database for 3rd party sponsorship deals and interest free loans should be considered in the same fashion as other loans as a form of club support. Other accountancy minds can alter accordingly, but if correct, hardly a win for Man city who -let’s face it- love a good appeal on time issues (see UEFA case) VS the actuals of a case.

Offline Demitri_C

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3693 on: October 08, 2024, 08:17:21 AM »
Im hoping the othee charges go against city. Honestly if nothing comes of it we need to stop abiding by FFP because all your lawyers would have to argue is that one club got away with it but another didnt so its discrimination against the club.

Hopefully citeh are not as invincible as they think


Offline Percy McCarthy

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3694 on: October 08, 2024, 09:14:44 AM »
Newcastle are going to be licking their lips at this news. Then its game over for everyone else

You don’t understand the judgement do you?

I meant in terms of being able to pay the best lawyers to get winning cases against the premier league like citeh appear to be doing

But they didn’t really win, so not sure how you work that out.

Offline DB

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3695 on: October 08, 2024, 09:25:24 AM »
Im hoping the othee charges go against city. Honestly if nothing comes of it we need to stop abiding by FFP because all your lawyers would have to argue is that one club got away with it but another didnt so its discrimination against the club.

Hopefully citeh are not as invincible as they think



The 'other' charges are  separate from this announcement. City bought this case in themselves. The 115 from the PL are still on-going. Just in case it was not clear...

Offline Risso

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3696 on: October 08, 2024, 09:29:54 AM »
From a quick look at the tribunal decision, it looks like Man City 'won' on a couple of very specific points where the Premier League didn't act fairly, eg giving Man City the chance to defend certain transactions. On the whole though, the Premier League won on the wider points and the APT rules remain in place.

Offline LeeB

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3697 on: October 08, 2024, 09:32:16 AM »
From a quick look at the tribunal decision, it looks like Man City 'won' on a couple of very specific points where the Premier League didn't act fairly, eg giving Man City the chance to defend certain transactions. On the whole though, the Premier League won on the wider points and the APT rules remain in place.

Yes it would seem they bought the case to attempt to open up a crack in the other case against them, and have actually failed.

Offline Demitri_C

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3698 on: October 08, 2024, 09:35:38 AM »
Newcastle are going to be licking their lips at this news. Then its game over for everyone else

You don’t understand the judgement do you?

I meant in terms of being able to pay the best lawyers to get winning cases against the premier league like citeh appear to be doing

But they didn’t really win, so not sure how you work that out.

They didnt really lose either though

Offline LeeS

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3699 on: October 08, 2024, 09:41:42 AM »
Presumably all those clubs with massive debts owed ti their owners are worried today? I notice that this doesn’t apply to us.

Offline Demitri_C

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3700 on: October 08, 2024, 09:43:22 AM »
Presumably all those clubs with massive debts owed ti their owners are worried today? I notice that this doesn’t apply to us.

I think so. But i bet they will all challenge it and ein on appeal.

Offline olaftab

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3701 on: October 08, 2024, 09:49:05 AM »
They didnt really lose either though
They did though as other than the two exceptions the rules have been validated applicable.

Offline Percy McCarthy

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3702 on: October 08, 2024, 09:49:37 AM »
Newcastle are going to be licking their lips at this news. Then its game over for everyone else

You don’t understand the judgement do you?

I meant in terms of being able to pay the best lawyers to get winning cases against the premier league like citeh appear to be doing

But they didn’t really win, so not sure how you work that out.

They didnt really lose either though

They lost on 6 out of 8, including the big one.

Have you bothered to read any explainers?

Offline Risso

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3703 on: October 08, 2024, 10:03:39 AM »

They didnt really lose either though

They did on everything that matters.

Offline Demitri_C

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Re: FFP
« Reply #3704 on: October 08, 2024, 10:05:32 AM »
Newcastle are going to be licking their lips at this news. Then its game over for everyone else

You don’t understand the judgement do you?

I meant in terms of being able to pay the best lawyers to get winning cases against the premier league like citeh appear to be doing

But they didn’t really win, so not sure how you work that out.

They didnt really lose either though

They lost on 6 out of 8, including the big one.

Have you bothered to read any explainers?

Do we know if  they plan to appeal?

 


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