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Offline Dave P

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Re: FFP
« Reply #330 on: January 15, 2024, 05:10:06 PM »
That was me. People liked it so I'm owning that one, the Shed Seven view not so popular.

I missed this. What was your Shed Seven view?

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Re: FFP
« Reply #331 on: January 15, 2024, 05:11:08 PM »
Some of the argument's that Forest and Everton have come up with are nonsense.



I’ve seen Evertons arguments and they are tenuous to say the least. They knew their situation but didn’t sell player/s to rectify it, when they had the chance.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #332 on: January 15, 2024, 05:11:17 PM »
It just feels like football is starting to lose its way. I get there needs to be financial rules to protect clubs from themselves to an extent, but the authorities are creating chaotic situations. There’s every chance appeals to any deductions will have to be heard after the season has ended.

Coupled with the VAR chaos and the joy being sucked out of being at the game, it’s just alienating people. Also, just reading what that Reading owner is doing to the club and the despair of their fans - it’s really grim. The authorities do nothing to protect clubs from really terrible owners.
You make some good points. I think the success of the Pl has outstripped the competence of the people running it. They are patently not fit for purpose, out of their depth with a whiff of corruption about them.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #333 on: January 15, 2024, 05:11:42 PM »
That was me. People liked it so I'm owning that one, the Shed Seven view not so popular.

I missed this. What was your Shed Seven view?

It's in the transfer thread of course.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #334 on: January 15, 2024, 05:17:20 PM »
For all Purslow's faults, he managed to keep the FFP inspectors happy - as he was involved in writing most of the rules!


Christian in happier times (er, yesterday) with Villa fans in Elephant & Castle:


Online Dante Lavelli

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Re: FFP
« Reply #335 on: January 15, 2024, 05:18:37 PM »
Which pub is that?

Offline Dave P

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Re: FFP
« Reply #336 on: January 15, 2024, 05:19:07 PM »
That was me. People liked it so I'm owning that one, the Shed Seven view not so popular.

I missed this. What was your Shed Seven view?

It's in the transfer thread of course.

Found it and commented!

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Re: FFP
« Reply #337 on: January 15, 2024, 05:21:20 PM »
Which pub is that?

Feed The Yak. Pretty sure it's on one of the new/gentrified streets near the train station. I was there for the Newcastle game on the opening day of the season.

Villa Lions used to meet in a smaller shack nearby, I remember going mental there when Lansbury (?!) scored an equaliser at Elland Road a few years ago when we were in the Ch'shit.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #338 on: January 15, 2024, 05:22:22 PM »
City were charged in February 2023 with over 100 offences relating to their spending, which date back to 2009 and include allegations of hidden payments and non-co-operation. It is thought unlikely there will be a resolution until the end of the 2024-25 season.

From the BBC.

Offline Villan82

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Re: FFP
« Reply #339 on: January 15, 2024, 05:33:53 PM »
City were charged in February 2023 with over 100 offences relating to their spending, which date back to 2009 and include allegations of hidden payments and non-co-operation. It is thought unlikely there will be a resolution until the end of the 2024-25 season.

From the BBC.

I won't hold my breadth but I want the book thrown at Man City in particular. Our fortunes were negatively impacted by what changed at that club in 2009.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #340 on: January 15, 2024, 05:36:36 PM »
Some of the argument's that Forest and Everton have come up with are nonsense.



I’ve seen Evertons arguments and they are tenuous to say the least. They knew their situation but didn’t sell player/s to rectify it, when they had the chance.

Isn't Forest's argument that they were always going to sell Brennan Johnson to balance the books in the window just gone, but that selling him by 30 June would have meant a lower transfer fee due to it being a panic sale?  I mean, I have some sympathy with them if that's the case, but only because it made that twat at Spurs pay more than he wanted to - but the 30th June deadline is there for a reason.  If you spend heavily and everyone knows you need to sell a homegrown player by the 30th June, I don't think you should be allowed to simply ignore that deadline just because you think you can get a bit more money a month or two later. 

I suspect that argument is being used not to reverse the FFP decision, but to try and make sure it a fine, rather than points deduction.  10 points off Forest would leave them in proper trouble.  They might be happier paying a big fine, maybe even equal to the difference between what they got for Johnson vs what they would have got selling him on 30th June.

Offline Villan82

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Re: FFP
« Reply #341 on: January 15, 2024, 05:39:15 PM »
Aside from my desire to see them punish Chelsea and Man City, I did prefer football when you didn't need to be a financial expert to understand it.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #342 on: January 15, 2024, 05:39:35 PM »
Which pub is that?

Feed The Yak. Pretty sure it's on one of the new/gentrified streets near the train station. I was there for the Newcastle game on the opening day of the season.

Villa Lions used to meet in a smaller shack nearby, I remember going mental there when Lansbury (?!) scored an equaliser at Elland Road a few years ago when we were in the Ch'shit.

I was in the wrong Irish pub in town trying to meet Percy when that happened, which is now immortalised in his book.

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Re: FFP
« Reply #343 on: January 15, 2024, 06:12:31 PM »
Which pub is that?

Feed The Yak. Pretty sure it's on one of the new/gentrified streets near the train station. I was there for the Newcastle game on the opening day of the season.

Villa Lions used to meet in a smaller shack nearby, I remember going mental there when Lansbury (?!) scored an equaliser at Elland Road a few years ago when we were in the Ch'shit.

Thank you.  Looks half decent.
« Last Edit: January 15, 2024, 06:20:34 PM by Dante Lavelli »

Online Sexual Ealing

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Re: FFP
« Reply #344 on: January 15, 2024, 06:19:04 PM »
Which pub is that?

Feed The Yak. Pretty sure it's on one of the new/gentrified streets near the train station. I was there for the Newcastle game on the opening day of the season.

Villa Lions used to meet in a smaller shack nearby, I remember going mental there when Lansbury (?!) scored an equaliser at Elland Road a few years ago when we were in the Ch'shit.

Which one are you, Eamonn?

 


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