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[luke95]

Has there ever been any discussion about the University sports ground - The Pavillion as a potential site?

https://www.google.com/maps/@52.5297477,-1.8850098,1886m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu

Moor Ln is not a big enough site anyway.

[The Edge]

BCC are skint, do they have any land (or offices we can flatten) they can flog to us?

Buying up a chunk of land in Aston Park and buying Trinity Rd itself would enable us to shift the ground sideways like Spurs did. The council are broke so it could be worth a try.

[The Edge]

Has there ever been any discussion about the University sports ground - The Pavillion as a potential site?

https://www.google.com/maps/@52.5297477,-1.8850098,1886m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu

Moor Ln is not a big enough site anyway.

I think it is and the neighbours are pretty quiet.

[pauliewalnuts]

BCC are skint, do they have any land (or offices we can flatten) they can flog to us?

Buying up a chunk of land in Aston Park and buying Trinity Rd itself would enable us to shift the ground sideways like Spurs did. The council are broke so it could be worth a try.

How would that work?

We can't just buy an entire road, either - you can't just put up a stadium halway down a road and block it, you'd need to re-route the road, which would use a massive chunk of any land you'd bought in the park in the first place.

Aston Hall is a Grade 1 listed building, nobody is going to be allowing roads or stadiums to get too close to it.

[Chap]

The place looks much better without it to be honest.

Have to agree and I don’t think the traffic at rush hour is any worse than before.
That said, it cost £27m to demolish and the apartments are still empty, so what was the point?

[algy]

BCC are skint, do they have any land (or offices we can flatten) they can flog to us?

Buying up a chunk of land in Aston Park and buying Trinity Rd itself would enable us to shift the ground sideways like Spurs did. The council are broke so it could be worth a try.

How would that work?

We can't just buy an entire road, either - you can't just put up a stadium halway down a road and block it, you'd need to re-route the road, which would use a massive chunk of any land you'd bought in the park in the first place.

Aston Hall is a Grade 1 listed building, nobody is going to be allowing roads or stadiums to get too close to it.

I know bugger all about this sort of thing, and I'm sure it shows, but couldn't you build a tunnel or something for the road to go under?  Like the cut and cover type thing they did with the early London underground lines.

[Percy McCarthy]

BCC are skint, do they have any land (or offices we can flatten) they can flog to us?

Buying up a chunk of land in Aston Park and buying Trinity Rd itself would enable us to shift the ground sideways like Spurs did. The council are broke so it could be worth a try.

How would that work?

We can't just buy an entire road, either - you can't just put up a stadium halway down a road and block it, you'd need to re-route the road, which would use a massive chunk of any land you'd bought in the park in the first place.

Aston Hall is a Grade 1 listed building, nobody is going to be allowing roads or stadiums to get too close to it.

I know bugger all about this sort of thing, and I'm sure it shows, but couldn't you build a tunnel or something for the road to go under?  Like the cut and cover type thing they did with the early London underground lines.

That’s real big money. Be cheaper to buy a row of houses behind the Witton Lane so we could build higher there. Plus there is space between the stand and the pitch on that side which could be better utilised. If there were no restrictions behind that stand we could rebuild the North and the Witton and marry them up, with the vision of doing the same with the Holte eventually. I reckon we could fit 60/65k in our current plot. Ideally I do want 70k + though.

Never mind the transport and parking, we’d get there somehow.

[chrisw1]

IF we wanted to completely rebuild the current site, I don't think it would be an environmental disaster if the council allowed us to buy up part of the bank and trees for rerouting of Trinity Road, to buy us extra space.  It would be a relatively small slice of a very large park and have a pretty minimal impact on the hall itself.

It may not be considered as ideal, but it's a small slice and the Council would be facilitating huge investment in the area.

[Villan82]

Now these are the ideas I can get fully behind. Use the existing site, we can fulfill our potential there. if we could handle 70k in the 1940s why not in the future?

I had never thought of Aston park, I just assumed it was a no-go and that Witton Lane and Witton End were our only chance.

What you said about reorientation the pitch got me thinking. Maybe we could move the pitch a bit towards trinity Road giving more space on the other side for a bigger stand? The Holte could stay as is but joined up with both lower tiers? Now, this might sound totally daft but the plans for the North redevelopment was clever in that the lower tier wrapped into Trinity but the Upper Tier was distinct, If we could do something like that at the other end we'd maximise the site while retaining something distinct and authentically Villa. if you look at that video render by Bondiboot it should a sort of 'angled' join between the Trinity and the new North Stand and I think that would look really well on a  redeveloped Villa Park.

[Somniloquism]

In theory, buy out and knockdown houses in Nelson Road. Then we have that area, the car park, the old academy and the offices to build the new ground without the worry of trinity road cutting into the ground shape or having to build over Witton. Then the old holte area can be used for the parking or other things.

[Villan82]

In theory, buy out and knockdown houses in Nelson Road. Then we have that area, the car park, the old academy and the offices to build the new ground without the worry of trinity road cutting into the ground shape or having to build over Witton. Then the old holte area can be used for the parking or other things.

Good thinking. Though, the Holte End and facade would be the one part of the current et up i would be looking to retain to have some continuity from the past (inspiration from the old Trinity)

[pauliewalnuts]

Now these are the ideas I can get fully behind. Use the existing site, we can fulfill our potential there. if we could handle 70k in the 1940s why not in the future?

Because

1. Cars
2. No trams.
3. Changing demographics.

[tomd2103]

Now these are the ideas I can get fully behind. Use the existing site, we can fulfill our potential there. if we could handle 70k in the 1940s why not in the future?

Because

1. Cars
2. No trams.
3. Changing demographics.

3. probably a very big one there.  Wonder what percentage of those crowds back.then could walk to the ground from their house?

[Dante Lavelli]

I heard today that 13 acres of land will soon be coming into the market in Birmingham. In the city centre as its land connected to the aborted HS2.

[wince]

1.40, Rory?! You accuse me of working in PR, at a time I could conceivably be up myself (for clarity, I wasn't up - myself or anyone else)?!! I do not work in PR, I work in marketing and communications, which, as you know, is nothing like PR!

Did Ealing just PR himself not working in PR?

Photo Reconnaissance???