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Offline ChicagoLion

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Re: Liverpool - 2 Aston Villa -1 Post Match Thread
« Reply #150 on: April 11, 2021, 09:39:44 AM »
The set up yesterday
Flat back 4 sitting fairly deep then

                                                          Nakamba
              SJM.                                                                                 Luiz

Traore.                                                                                                         Trez

                                                         Watkins


Then he went


                 SJM.                                                                     Luiz

Traore. Ramsey                           Barkley.                                        Trez AEG

                                         Watkins

The distance between our wide players and midfield was huge, we were unable to use the press because we were too far away from each other and the the situation was exacerbated by our wingers giving the ball away ( particularly Trare) The 3 midfield players were all over the place.
It looked like a shambles.

 


You can argue that two players going off injured pretty quickly didn't help and Barkley came on just a few minutes before, which might not have been a sub he would have made had he left that one 10 minutes or so.
agree, I was trying to demonstrate how big the gaps were which left us so open. The disappointment for me was that we had got away with it until half time but we came out exactly the same and inevitably we lost the lead.

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Re: Liverpool - 2 Aston Villa -1 Post Match Thread
« Reply #151 on: April 11, 2021, 09:39:57 AM »
The set up yesterday
Flat back 4 sitting fairly deep then

                                                          Nakamba
              SJM.                                                                                 Luiz

Traore.                                                                                                         Trez

                                                         Watkins


Then he went


                 SJM.                                                                     Luiz

Traore. Ramsey                           Barkley.                                        Trez AEG

                                         Watkins

The distance between our wide players and midfield was huge, we were unable to use the press because we were too far away from each other and the the situation was exacerbated by our wingers giving the ball away ( particularly Trare) The 3 midfield players were all over the place.
It looked like a shambles.

It looked a midfield three to me yesterday, which I've no issue with but it was very strange that Luiz was left of Nakamba and McGinn to the right. Inverted wingers are one thing but inverted midfielders didn't help us retain possession. Trez played a lot closer to Watkins in the second half at least. Traore was a waste of space.

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Re: Liverpool - 2 Aston Villa -1 Post Match Thread
« Reply #152 on: April 11, 2021, 09:54:13 AM »
From the back 4 we were spread out, partly because the back 4 sat deep and the wingers stayed high and wide. We were neither plugging  the midfield gaps or supporting Watkins.
We went in a goal up at Anfield and left it exactly the same.

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Re: Liverpool - 2 Aston Villa -1 Post Match Thread
« Reply #153 on: April 11, 2021, 10:29:55 AM »
Not the worst result we have ever had at Afield
But far from the best liverpool team we have ever played.
We should have got the draw
I think everyone realises to kick on or even consolidate next year we need some quality injections, we are unlikely to kick off at such a blistering pace as this year.
We also need a bit of flexibility/ and openness to change with our game plans

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Re: Liverpool - 2 Aston Villa -1 Post Match Thread
« Reply #154 on: April 11, 2021, 10:34:54 AM »
Liverpoolís ability to play through the lines at times yesterday from front to back was frightening. Yes theyíve got bloody good players but our openness was naive in the extreme.
I was trying to show above, it was just straight line passes from defence to attack.


Yep was agreeing. I think the comment I made the most yesterday whilst watching was "too bloody easy for them Villa". Fortunately the shape/ability of the back 4 is so good this season we were able to keep them out for the majority of the time but that midfield is all wrong currently. I think a few have said it would be good to maybe utilise a diamond or at least a 4 of some sort in midfield to stop our ineffective wide attackers being exposed yet again.   

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Re: Liverpool - 2 Aston Villa -1 Post Match Thread
« Reply #155 on: April 11, 2021, 10:41:52 AM »
Liverpoolís ability to play through the lines at times yesterday from front to back was frightening. Yes theyíve got bloody good players but our openness was naive in the extreme.
I was trying to show above, it was just straight line passes from defence to attack.


Yep was agreeing. I think the comment I made the most yesterday whilst watching was "too bloody easy for them Villa". Fortunately the shape/ability of the back 4 is so good this season we were able to keep them out for the majority of the time but that midfield is all wrong currently. I think a few have said it would be good to maybe utilise a diamond or at least a 4 of some sort in midfield to stop our ineffective wide attackers being exposed yet again.   
yes I think we are both seeing it the same way.
He could make the 3 flat and push the Full backs further up, then that gives different attacking options.

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Re: Liverpool - 2 Aston Villa -1 Post Match Thread
« Reply #156 on: April 11, 2021, 10:51:42 AM »
Liverpoolís ability to play through the lines at times yesterday from front to back was frightening. Yes theyíve got bloody good players but our openness was naive in the extreme.
I was trying to show above, it was just straight line passes from defence to attack.


Yep was agreeing. I think the comment I made the most yesterday whilst watching was "too bloody easy for them Villa". Fortunately the shape/ability of the back 4 is so good this season we were able to keep them out for the majority of the time but that midfield is all wrong currently. I think a few have said it would be good to maybe utilise a diamond or at least a 4 of some sort in midfield to stop our ineffective wide attackers being exposed yet again.   

Funny, thatís what Iíve muttered under my breath a lot as well since the turn of the year. The first 30 minutes against Leicester was one of the worst examples but agree, it needs an overhaul and change of shape.

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Re: Liverpool - 2 Aston Villa -1 Post Match Thread
« Reply #157 on: April 11, 2021, 11:03:07 AM »
A better 2nd half and after Liverpool equalised we contained them quite well, until they got the winner, but quality going forward was once again sadly lacking. How Traore starts every game I simply don't know, he was a liability today. Barkley was again crap, loses possession, powder puff striking, poor decision making and doesn't track back, very tough on Davis that he wasn't bought on.

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Re: Liverpool - 2 Aston Villa -1 Post Match Thread
« Reply #158 on: April 11, 2021, 11:12:15 AM »
Just back after walking the dog - junior footy is back so the parks were busy - bumped into a fair few people who know me - mostly Reds ......without exception they all said that Villa didn't pressurise a weak Liverpool defence. Bearing in mind the result earlier in the year why didn't we go at them again? there was nothing to lose by doing so

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Re: Liverpool - 2 Aston Villa -1 Post Match Thread
« Reply #159 on: April 11, 2021, 11:18:55 AM »
We badly missed a target man .  Give me 12 months of Benteke will sort a lot of issues we witnessed yesterday

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Re: Liverpool - 2 Aston Villa -1 Post Match Thread
« Reply #160 on: April 11, 2021, 11:31:46 AM »
The set up yesterday
Flat back 4 sitting fairly deep then

                                                          Nakamba
              SJM.                                                                            Luiz

Traore.                                                                                               Trez

                                                         Watkins


Then he went


                 SJM.                                                                     Luiz

Traore. Ramsey                           Barkley.                                        Trez AEG

                                         Watkins

The distance between our wide players and midfield was huge, we were unable to use the press because we were too far away from each other and the the situation was exacerbated by our wingers giving the ball away ( particularly Trare) The 3 midfield players were all over the place.
It looked like a shambles.

A shambles and yet Liverpool didnít have a meaningful attack between equalising and getting the last minute winner and despite not being fluent we were completely comfortable. Not suggesting we played well or you donít make good points about about the set up, but a shamble suggests we were completely overrun. A draw would of been a fair result and I think not seeing that is overly negative.

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Re: Liverpool - 2 Aston Villa -1 Post Match Thread
« Reply #161 on: April 11, 2021, 11:56:17 AM »
Liverpool were there for the taking.

If Trez goes down, we get a penalty.

We can criticise Smithís selection & substitutes but the players on the bench arenít anywhere near as good as those starting.

A summer recruitment that addresses this will make a huge difference.

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Re: Liverpool - 2 Aston Villa -1 Post Match Thread
« Reply #162 on: April 11, 2021, 12:16:20 PM »
Haven't read the full thread so not sure if anyone has mentioned it but I thought Targett was superb yesterday. His positioning, decision-making and contribution going forward all spot-on. He seems to have learned so much in the past 12 months and I trust him a lot more than Mings.

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Re: Liverpool - 2 Aston Villa -1 Post Match Thread
« Reply #163 on: April 11, 2021, 12:22:24 PM »
Just come on to see what people are saying and I'm very suprised at the reaction. I thought we played well (not brilliantly) and that we were unlucky not to come away with a draw. A couple of players are out of form, a couple of others need upgrading and we are withouth our best player. We'll end up somewhere around mid-table, which is good progress. I'm not sure what it is some people expect.

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Re: Liverpool - 2 Aston Villa -1 Post Match Thread
« Reply #164 on: April 11, 2021, 12:24:28 PM »
we got beat by the champions away from home in the last minute.

If you read these pages it appears we got beat 9-0 by Kidderminster Harriers.

 


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