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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #13395 on: Today at 03:44:14 PM »
If we want to get to 60k, I think we'd want a lot more space, as you'd need space for the stand, but also for access and pedestrian areas around it, etc.

Not forgetting the required metro extension that will be needed to go under it and then head up to the Alexander Stadium. If we’re going to do it we need to do it big.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #13396 on: Today at 04:42:34 PM »
Dr Tony wanted to make Aston a smart city. Are we still working on that?

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« Reply #13397 on: Today at 05:29:20 PM »
I think we’ll be looking, long-term, to acquire the land necessary to rebuild the Witton Lane stand, if only to improve the corporate offer and improve the concourses, which belong in another millenium.

The great thing is we can do lots of stuff leading up to that in the meantime to test 1) demand for extra capacity, 2) corporate space and 3) the ability to attract events on the 330 days a year when there’s no football. According to someone on skyscrapercity we’re already quite busy in terms of business events/conferences etc.
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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #13398 on: Today at 05:39:14 PM »
Dr Tony wanted to make Aston a smart city. Are we still working on that?
...sadly Dr Tony talked baloney 😕

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« Reply #13399 on: Today at 06:08:05 PM »
My understanding is that Palace only needed to buy 6 of the houses in the south corner to facilitate their stand redevelopment. They are building immediately to the north of the remaining houses, so daylight/ sunlight and Rights of Light are manageable.

We would need to buy many more than that to facilitate a new Witton Lane stand of the same scale as the current Trinity Road Stand - at least 20, probably more. The new stand would obviously be both deeper and taller than the existing structure, which would impact properties to the north in terms of daylight/ sunlight and Rights of Light.

Negotiating with 6 individual owners is obviously much easier than negotiating with 20-30. I'm not very familiar with the CPO process, but my understanding is that only a public body can exercise CPO powers, and only when there is a compelling public interest in doing so. The fact that Villa Park is privately owned, and not even by Villa, would probably complicate matters.   

Liverpool's Main Stand redevelopment is a better comparison than Palace IMO. My understanding is that 150 houses to the north of the stand were demolished to facilitate this. I don't know the details, but I think the club were heavily criticised for how they gradually bought properties as they became available, and effectively ran the area down. If the CPO process had been possible/ appropriate, then it would presumably have been used here instead.

It might not be entirely necessary, but to keep properties at least the same distance from a new Witton Lane Stand of the same scale as is the case with Liverpool's Main Stand would require houses on both sides of Holte Road to be demolished.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #13400 on: Today at 06:12:55 PM »
It will be a long, drawn-out process.

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« Reply #13401 on: Today at 06:14:04 PM »
Apparently they avoided having to get CPOs and just negotiated with the people and bought the properties.

That feels like a sensible approach.
I mentioned on here a while back that I work with a lad who's grandparents live in the road next to the park on Witton Lane. The club sent out letters a while back to residents to find  out about their willingness to to sell up to the club. However no timeframe was included.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #13402 on: Today at 06:15:28 PM »
Did he mention what their reaction was?

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« Reply #13403 on: Today at 06:16:47 PM »
^^ Let’s not forget that Villa have bought land which is slated for change of use from industrial to housing over by Aston station.

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« Reply #13404 on: Today at 06:17:41 PM »
25k above market value and a load of signed club merch Would be interesting how many would take that.

And party.

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« Reply #13405 on: Today at 06:31:12 PM »
^^ I would, but they don’t want to build a stadium in Chelmsley.

My mate moved from Stechford to Gilson, didn’t like it and wanted to move again within a year, and HS2 got in touch and gave him 10% over market value. He was chuffed, and now lives in Water Orton.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #13406 on: Today at 06:41:54 PM »
Well, if there are any local residents who get offered a wedge to give up their home and they don’t want to, I hope the tell the club to get fucked.

There is a real arrogance amongst some people who think people should give up their home.
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« Reply #13407 on: Today at 06:48:37 PM »
Yeah you can't scroll in this thread without seeing a stream of posts saying the club should force people out of their homes.

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Re: Villa Park Redevelopment
« Reply #13408 on: Today at 06:49:36 PM »
Well, if there are any local residents who get offered a wedge to give up their home and they don’t want to, I hope the tell the club to get fucked.

There is a real arrogance amongst some people who think people should give up their home.

I’m sure they will. But what is wrong with the club, or anyone, offering to buy it?

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« Reply #13409 on: Today at 06:49:47 PM »
Pitchforks on stun

 


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