Villa Park Redevelopment

[Russ aka Big Nose]

Reference the treatment of the costs involved in the upgrade to help with PSR et al, there will be some allowance, though the relevant governing body will keep a very close on eye on what we claim.

I'm not sure whether it has been resolved, though I understand there have been challenges to what Blue Scouse claimed as a material cost for their new build.

More generally - there is never going to be a 'good' time to do something on this scale and we have a hard deadline in terms of the Euros. So, whilst it will mean some short-term pain - I'm pleased they they are getting on with it.

Of course, they can still make a mess of the design and the execution, but the current regime hasn't made too many mistakes and I'm confident that they will do a good/great job of this. UTV

[Sexual Ealing]

Apologies I clearly remembered wrong (that lost income could be factored into accounts).

It’s makes the decision even more weird to me then, but they have all the facts assume it’s the correct decision, we’re mostly guessing.

It does make one wonder why they weren't able to make the correct decision previously.

[Mellin]

I was a bit flat about it all, as you should never redevelop Villa Park with the inferior option. It's something to be proud of and deserves the best. The little hints in the Athletic article, combined with the timeline/plan change have me frothing.

[Trevthedog]

There is clearly a forthcoming change from the consented Heckstension scheme.

The official news release states:

'The redevelopment will also deliver substantial football infrastructure benefits, including the creation of approximately 500 square metres of new first-team changing, medical and physiotherapy facilities, alongside the upgrade of all player competition areas. '

This is not within the consented scheme. Something similar was in the Purslow Plans, situated around a new tunnel in the corner of the wraparound between the Trinity and the New North Stand.

Furthermore, from Tanswells article:

'The Athletic has seen copies of the redevelopment proposals' - this indicates there are new proposals which are not public domain.

'The new North Stand will wrap around into the neighbouring main Trinity Stand' - this was clearly not the case with the last heckstension.

Put the dots together - the design is changing again.

Can only assume they figured this was a bonus route they could go down by closing the stand.

Interesting first post 

Youve got me excited for a bigger north stand with a red brick exterior now. If that doesnt happen, its on you.

Haha have followed the reno plans closely and occasionally read through this thread in particular and didn’t see anyone else putting this together so made an account to comment…

Nothing I’ve said is ‘ITK’ or anything is it - it’s literally in the info from Villa and comments from Tanswell.

Having read through all the planning docs, when I read the comment about 500m2 of players area it was obvious it’s a change as that is 100% not in the current consent.

Tbh I would wager it is much closer to the Heck plans than Purslows. The purslow end was massive and was from scratch, the FAQs say they are still retaining part of the structure. My hunch is the stands might go wider on each side to get more room for internal areas in addition to the concourse, and the ties in to TS and WL will be higher than it was.

Losing purslows plans for the heckstension really pissed me off tbh as it did many - I don’t think heck’s is anywhere near befitting of what we should be doing with VP when you look at the new end at Anfield and the proposed Leeds and Forest renovations.

Hoping we can get way closer to Purslows now we’re closing the bloody thing anyway. Sadly doubt it, but we will see

[algy]

I was a bit flat about it all, as you should never redevelop Villa Park with the inferior option. It's something to be proud of and deserves the best. The little hints in the Athletic article, combined with the timeline/plan change have me frothing.

https://archive.ph/XIzgM in case anyone else was wondering what they were

[KevinGage]

 I don’t think heck’s is anywhere near befitting of what we should be doing with VP when you look at the new end at Anfield and the proposed Leeds and Forest renovations.

Exactly right Trev.

[Russ aka Big Nose]

If the Athletic report is accurate, it would make sense to connect the new North Stand to the Trinity, though not the Witton Lane stand - leaving the option to do something with that in the future without having to undo the work that will happen in the next year and a bit. UTV

[The Edge]

There is clearly a forthcoming change from the consented Heckstension scheme.

The official news release states:

'The redevelopment will also deliver substantial football infrastructure benefits, including the creation of approximately 500 square metres of new first-team changing, medical and physiotherapy facilities, alongside the upgrade of all player competition areas. '

This is not within the consented scheme. Something similar was in the Purslow Plans, situated around a new tunnel in the corner of the wraparound between the Trinity and the New North Stand.

Furthermore, from Tanswells article:

'The Athletic has seen copies of the redevelopment proposals' - this indicates there are new proposals which are not public domain.

'The new North Stand will wrap around into the neighbouring main Trinity Stand' - this was clearly not the case with the last heckstension.

Put the dots together - the design is changing again.

Can only assume they figured this was a bonus route they could go down by closing the stand.

Interesting first post 

Youve got me excited for a bigger north stand with a red brick exterior now. If that doesnt happen, its on you.

Haha have followed the reno plans closely and occasionally read through this thread in particular and didn’t see anyone else putting this together so made an account to comment…

Nothing I’ve said is ‘ITK’ or anything is it - it’s literally in the info from Villa and comments from Tanswell.

Having read through all the planning docs, when I read the comment about 500m2 of players area it was obvious it’s a change as that is 100% not in the current consent.

Tbh I would wager it is much closer to the Heck plans than Purslows. The purslow end was massive and was from scratch, the FAQs say they are still retaining part of the structure. My hunch is the stands might go wider on each side to get more room for internal areas in addition to the concourse, and the ties in to TS and WL will be higher than it was.

Losing purslows plans for the heckstension really pissed me off tbh as it did many - I don’t think heck’s is anywhere near befitting of what we should be doing with VP when you look at the new end at Anfield and the proposed Leeds and Forest renovations.

Hoping we can get way closer to Purslows now we’re closing the bloody thing anyway. Sadly doubt it, but we will see

If they're going to conjoin the NS to the Trinity this surely means that long term the same will happen between the new NS and an extended Doug. If I'm right this will be the Horseshoe design with a freestanding Holte End. While we will lose our beloved 4 separate stands design it will eventually give us the necessary capacity of 60k plus that will enable us to compete at the highest level in the foreseeable future.
It just seems inevitable in the long run and it means we will be staying in our ancestral home forever. Which is great news to the vast majority of our fans.

[Behind Bluenose Lines]

I have to ask the question (unless someone else has already) will the New North Stand have a cheese room like the Spurs ground?

[olaftab]

I have to ask the question (unless someone else has already) will the New North Stand have a cheese room like the Spurs ground?

I have heard a cheese room and a Charcuterie lounge hosted by Glynn Purnell.

[FrankyH]

Maybe it was a dream , but wasn't the Warehouse supposed to have a Micro Brewery ?

[Brazilian Villain]

I have to ask the question (unless someone else has already) will the New North Stand have a cheese room like the Spurs ground?

I have heard a cheese room and a Charcuterie lounge hosted by Glynn Purnell.

Love it, if Jarlsberg did Sundays.

[Ads]

Crikey thr image for the players section is huge. Basically all the carpark that was behind the Corner Flag.

[Max Villan]

I just want red brick, not a fan of that cladding type replacement, although its better than nothing.

[paul_e]

Reference the treatment of the costs involved in the upgrade to help with PSR et al, there will be some allowance, though the relevant governing body will keep a very close on eye on what we claim.

I'm not sure whether it has been resolved, though I understand there have been challenges to what Blue Scouse claimed as a material cost for their new build.

More generally - there is never going to be a 'good' time to do something on this scale and we have a hard deadline in terms of the Euros. So, whilst it will mean some short-term pain - I'm pleased they they are getting on with it.

Of course, they can still make a mess of the design and the execution, but the current regime hasn't made too many mistakes and I'm confident that they will do a good/great job of this. UTV

Everton got in trouble for including the interest costs of all the borrowing they took on despite some of it being used for things that weren't exempt.

That we're doing this as part of the work to prepare for hosting the Euros plays massively to our advantage though, as we can legitimately argue that UEFA play a big part in why we've had to go this way as we need to ensure we can finish with plenty of time to spare.