Villa Park Redevelopment

[colin69]

Seems like it’s gonna happen - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/videos/cz0d2mg3k3po

Having a vision is one thing, the reality is something else altogether.

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I personally don't give a fuck about those ****** and don't want to see their Wolves level delusion infect the main board. It's bad enough we have people utterly obsessed with them on their dedicated thread.

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It's a shame the Warehouse can't be turned into a Co-Op style 20k arena. Stadium stuff is all well and good, but its only a handful a year at Old Trafford cricket or the Etihad, but the Co-Op next door is really good.

[Rigadon]

It's a shame the Warehouse can't be turned into a Co-Op style 20k arena. Stadium stuff is all well and good, but its only a handful a year at Old Trafford cricket or the Etihad, but the Co-Op next door is really good.

Indeed.  And there's plenty more bands and artists that can fill an arena than can fill an actual stadium. What's stopping the Warehouse being used in etc same way as the venue in Manchester?  Is it capacity?

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Yeah Co-op is much bigger, about 25k more. There's no real difference between the distance from the city centre the Etihad is either and Villa Park. Folks like me will still happily jump the tram out there and walk back (avec beer jacket because you can actually get served easily in there).

It wouldn't need to be 20k plus, but you'd get all year round usage.

[London Villan]

Isn’t the NEC Arena going to expand to 25000?

[Chip Butty 111]

Seems like it’s gonna happen - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/videos/cz0d2mg3k3po

Having a vision is one thing, the reality is something else altogether.

Building a stadium with a capacity 4000 below your record attendance (66000) when you've just got out of League 1...imagine if we said we were doing that when we were playing Bruceball in the lower half of the Championship, building a 72000 stadium 4000 below our record attendance when the top tier of the Trinity was closed....

[walsall villain]

Seems like it’s gonna happen - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/videos/cz0d2mg3k3po

Having a vision is one thing, the reality is something else altogether.

Building a stadium with a capacity 4000 below your record attendance (66000) when you've just got out of League 1...imagine if we said we were doing that when we were playing Bruceball in the lower half of the Championship, building a 72000 stadium 4000 below our record attendance when the top tier of the Trinity was closed....

I imagine the thinking is that in this era premier league teams have average attendances close to capacity so build it and they will come. Big risk. I don’t think they have ever averaged higher than 39k.

[paul_e]

Yeah Co-op is much bigger, about 25k more. There's no real difference between the distance from the city centre the Etihad is either and Villa Park. Folks like me will still happily jump the tram out there and walk back (avec beer jacket because you can actually get served easily in there).

It wouldn't need to be 20k plus, but you'd get all year round usage.

I can't remember where I saw it but I seem to remember reading something that or biggest gap was venues around 3-5k, the warehouse seems a good fit for that.

[DB]

Isn’t the NEC Arena going to expand to 25000?

It was planned before Covid hit. Still on the cards but gonna a bit quiet.

[amfy]

Isn’t the NEC Arena going to expand to 25000?

It was planned before Covid hit. Still on the cards but gonna a bit quiet.

I read something about arena events not really hitting the mark now. People want intimate or stadium, and arena is neither.

[tomd2103]

It's a shame the Warehouse can't be turned into a Co-Op style 20k arena. Stadium stuff is all well and good, but its only a handful a year at Old Trafford cricket or the Etihad, but the Co-Op next door is really good.

Birmingham's got the NEC and NIA (or whatever they are called now) for that sort of size venue.  What it hasn't really got is a Wolverhampton Civic Hall size venue that can regularly host gigs and British / Commonwealth title level boxing, darts and snooker events etc. 

I would certainly be looking to make it an established venue on the boxing circuit.

[algy]

I think that’s the thing - you want a venue that’s going to be in use several times a week rather than one or twice a month.

You also want something that’s going to help to stagger crowds on match days, which again feels like a Warehouse-sized venue would be more suited to.

[London Villan]

Thing is with the Blues - there are a whole bunch of small clubs with rich owners and big ideas, off the top of my head there are Ipswich, Wrexham, Leeds, Oldham, QPR - all aiming for the Premier League, let alone the established 15 or so teams and the 10 that yo-yo between the EFL and PL. They seem to think it will be a stroll!

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Thing is with the Blues - there are a whole bunch of small clubs with rich owners and big ideas, off the top of my head there are Ipswich, Wrexham, Leeds, Oldham, QPR - all aiming for the Premier League, let alone the established 15 or so teams and the 10 that yo-yo between the EFL and PL. They seem to think it will be a stroll!

Wrong thread.