Villa Park Redevelopment

[Sexual Ealing]

My understanding is that the FA Cup final, Wimbledon, the Grand National, Davos, the Kentucky Derby, Glastonbury, the Trooping of the Colour, the Gloucestershire Cheese Roll, the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China, Movember, the New York marathon and Taylor Swift's world tour will all be taking place in Bordesley from 2030.

[Drummond]

I bet we're left with the Climate Change Deniers World Conkering Championships aren't we?

[Percy McCarthy]

I bet we're left with the Climate Change Deniers World Conkering Championships aren't we?

And the Flat Earthers Global conference.

[Lucky Eddie]

Expansion/Relocation rumours are about as much good as transfer rumours and likely appeal to the same type of supporter. The club are advancing in many directions and I for one trust that they're not settling for 43,000 or even 53,000 opportunities to extract my last penny once or twice a fortnight and when they are ready will announce their proposals to keep pace with the increased capacities of our rivals. 

[VILLA MOLE]

Expansion/Relocation rumours are about as much good as transfer rumours and likely appeal to the same type of supporter. The club are advancing in many directions and I for one trust that they're not settling for 43,000 or even 53,000 opportunities to extract my last penny once or twice a fortnight and when they are ready will announce their proposals to keep pace with the increased capacities of our rivals. 

My thinking was they might be looking at a bigger project  nearer 60,000 involving a wrap around with Witton Lane

Obviously this would be a lot more involved with planning etc

[Lucky Eddie]

All the talk I've read of modernising Villa Park  is based on the pitch staying pretty much where it currently sits. I'd be surprised if they're not looking at staying in the Park and coming towards our Jacobean Mansion House.

[IFWaters]

You can only conclude that the current owners have decided for reasons they're never going to tell us that the expansion won't pay them back. They've clearly decided to sweat the existing assets as much as possible. Maybe they are looking to sell and decided to leave ground expansion to the Bahrainis or whoever else are our next owners. If you're going to sell up you don't go to the arseache of building a massive extension you tidy the place up and fix the broken patio out the back of the north stand.

[Chris Smith]

You can only conclude that the current owners have decided for reasons they're never going to tell us that the expansion won't pay them back. They've clearly decided to sweat the existing assets as much as possible. Maybe they are looking to sell and decided to leave ground expansion to the Bahrainis or whoever else are our next owners. If you're going to sell up you don't go to the arseache of building a massive extension you tidy the place up and fix the broken patio out the back of the north stand.

That’s one conclusion certainly. Another is that in the short term it is preferable to have a full stadium rather than a building site for our first venture in the Champions League and our 150th anniversary season.

[algy]

My hope is that it’ll come round to May and then they’ll announce “right, we’ve had 12 months of celebrating our past - let’s talk about the future” and reveal plans for a 60k capacity Villa Park on the current site.

You never know.

[Dante Lavelli]

You can only conclude that the current owners have decided for reasons they're never going to tell us that the expansion won't pay them back. They've clearly decided to sweat the existing assets as much as possible. Maybe they are looking to sell and decided to leave ground expansion to the Bahrainis or whoever else are our next owners. If you're going to sell up you don't go to the arseache of building a massive extension you tidy the place up and fix the broken patio out the back of the north stand.

I don’t think it’s the future owners, my hunch is there’s negotiations ongoing between our three owners, with NSWE challenging Altiros/Comcast to significantly fund a re-development or even move.   

[London Villan]

I think it's more a long term view from our owners. The short term issue was generating revenue £400m turnover in 2 years - which we are on track for.

The North Stand plans may not have been ambitious enough and too limiting for the future.

My gut feel is there is work going on in background, looking at locations, feasibility, as well as the more emotional feelings around Villa Park.

In 15 years Villa Park will be very, very different or we'll be playing somewhere else.

[Pat Mustard]

My hunch is the long-term plan now is to redevelop Villa Park, but only once the club can get pretty much all of the land between the ground and where the academy site is.  If they can do that we'd effectively be able to either have a new build go up whilst playing at Villa Park (Bilbao did this building 3/4 of a new stadium and finishing off the last part whilst playing in the new ground), or do something more like what Liverpool did by building a new tier behind the current Witton Lane, then a complete North Stand rebuild without capacity ever dropping below what it is currently.

[pauliewalnuts]

They've just spent a ton of money installing new corporate facilities around the ground, and are currently spending more money on that Warehouse thing and then improving the public realm at the back of the North Stand.

They're not about to demolish the Witton and anyone holding their breath for a new north stand given the above is going to be, err, unable to breathe soon or something.

[aev]

They've just spent a ton of money installing new corporate facilities around the ground, and are currently spending more money on that Warehouse thing and then improving the public realm at the back of the North Stand.

They're not about to demolish the Witton and anyone holding their breath for a new north stand given the above is going to be, err, unable to breathe soon or something.

I agree, maybe the Atairos advice is simply being implemented.

[London Villan]

They've just spent a ton of money installing new corporate facilities around the ground, and are currently spending more money on that Warehouse thing and then improving the public realm at the back of the North Stand.

They're not about to demolish the Witton and anyone holding their breath for a new north stand given the above is going to be, err, unable to breathe soon or something.

In the grand scheme of things they have not spent a lot - compared to the £100m the new North would have been.

It's all make-do and mend - shortish-term fixes with a 5-10 year return.