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Offline Baldy

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1350 on: April 20, 2021, 11:37:26 PM »
Apoints reduction would penalise the fans who were innocent in all of this, i prefer a three year ban from playing in Europe this would acheive many aims. They would lose the ability to attract top players , they would be faced with transfer requests from their best players, they would lose all the revenue that Europe brings and lastly there would be an adventage for a lot of clubs to play in Europe who wouldn't normally get the opportunity, they would automatically become more attractive to better players.

Agreed 100% Robbo. They never wanted to leave the Premier League but they did want to dominate the European competitions for their own gain.

The irony of a European ban would be poetic justice.

Offline john2710

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1351 on: April 20, 2021, 11:39:25 PM »
This can’t go unpunished. The instigators must have been in talks for months, whilst continuing to sit around the table with their own league’s representatives & UEFA.

Others will have been informed over the last few days & they may escape major punishment.

Points deduction, European bans, resignations & tightening of the rules. Some owners will sell up.

Offline Stu

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1352 on: April 20, 2021, 11:41:13 PM »
Loads of fans from loads of clubs have suffered due to mismanagement by ownership. It wasn't their fans' fault either. The 6 clubs involved shouldn't get a free pass just because they're not Bolton, or Bury. A few seasons in the lower leagues won't be too bad, they'll get over it. Their fans can blame the owners - not implementation of punishment.

Offline Hockley Lion

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1353 on: April 20, 2021, 11:42:03 PM »
At the very least the “fit and proper owner” test should be brought into play

As these are all limited companies it would be appropriate if the directors were disqualified for a number of years

Decades more like 😀

Offline Hairbandinho

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1354 on: April 20, 2021, 11:44:14 PM »
I am willing to bet my right nutsack:

There will be no punishment handed down to the teams "football needs them too much"

The media wankathon over the teams will carry on as if nothing happened.

All of the CEO's that resigned form that ECA board will be allowed back in. After all they created the champions league closed shop as it is now

Offline Villan82

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1355 on: April 20, 2021, 11:46:20 PM »
Loads of fans from loads of clubs have suffered due to mismanagement by ownership. It wasn't their fans' fault either. The 6 clubs involved shouldn't get a free pass just because they're not Bolton, or Bury. A few seasons in the lower leagues won't be too bad, they'll get over it. Their fans can blame the owners - not implementation of punishment.

hear hear. Bloody hell, when we were facing the abyss 3 years ago Spurs tried to buy Grealish for £3m plus a reject. Zero tolerance from me, Spurs didn't give a sh1t about us in 2018 let them suffer the consequences of their treachery.

Offline sickbeggar

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1356 on: April 20, 2021, 11:53:10 PM »
Have they technically broken any rules - don't think so
Do UEFA need them back in for their slightly more acceptable version of wanton greed to work - yes
Will the owners of ManU/madrid/etc try this again after getting royally buttfucked in public - probably not
Will UEFA allow them to try again - not a chance

So overall not a bad result

Offline Hockley Lion

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1357 on: April 20, 2021, 11:54:45 PM »
I think we need to be careful where we attribute punishment here. I think a lot of credit must go to the real fans of the clubs in question to come out so passionately over this.

The people responsible should be punished for this and their greed not the inocent. I could say there but for the grace of God go I/we. It could have been our club if our owners were the same. Hopefully they are not. The fans of these clubs have stood shoulder to shoulder with the rest of the football family to kill this abomination. I salute them.

Let's just target the blame on the guilty.

I see your point but the fans of these clubs have been happy enough to enjoy the success brought about the largesse of their wealthy owners for the best part of 2 decades. Now that those same wealthy owners have screwed up they can suffer the consequences of that for a couple of seasons (at least).

Exactly. As football fans we all live and die by the decisions the owners of our clubs make. That's not just the managers they choose or the players they buy, it's everything. If you break the rules, you get punished.

That's my point though really isn't it. Their fans didn't live and die by their clubs owners decisions. They stood up to them and said no.

Offline cdbearsfan

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1358 on: April 20, 2021, 11:56:42 PM »
League's been 'suspended' (hopefully over an active volcano). Milan hilariously withdrew literally one minute before it was suspended. Wankers.

Where's this from, please? I'm enjoying every humiliating climbdown.

Offline nordenvillain

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1359 on: April 21, 2021, 12:02:34 AM »
i am pleased it looks like it is going to fail .  but i wish they would not pretend that the premiership is all fair and dandy .  The whole distribution of money still needs looking at down the pyramid.

I'm not sure, I reckon we probably have the wealthiest second tier, third tier, fourth tier, fifth tier and sixth tier of any national football structure on the planet.

I'd rather they gave more to communities or to developing leagues in impoverished countries if they want to redistribute cash. Let the money do something good.

Rochdale don't need to be paying players five grand a week any more than Man City need to be paying them a hundred times that.
I'll have you know that players pay five grand a week to play for the Mighty 'Dale - 3 wins on the trot in the last week !!

Offline Monty

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1360 on: April 21, 2021, 12:04:06 AM »
League's been 'suspended' (hopefully over an active volcano). Milan hilariously withdrew literally one minute before it was suspended. Wankers.

Where's this from, please? I'm enjoying every humiliating climbdown.

https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri/status/1384631922261995520

Sorry, meant to write one minute *after. Permanently ridiculous.

Offline cdbearsfan

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1361 on: April 21, 2021, 12:04:52 AM »
i am pleased it looks like it is going to fail .  but i wish they would not pretend that the premiership is all fair and dandy .  The whole distribution of money still needs looking at down the pyramid.

I'm not sure, I reckon we probably have the wealthiest second tier, third tier, fourth tier, fifth tier and sixth tier of any national football structure on the planet.

I'd rather they gave more to communities or to developing leagues in impoverished countries if they want to redistribute cash. Let the money do something good.

Rochdale don't need to be paying players five grand a week any more than Man City need to be paying them a hundred times that.
I'll have you know that players pay five grand a week to play for the Mighty 'Dale - 3 wins on the trot in the last week !!

Now we can see why the ESL really wanted a closed shop. They're obviously running scared of Lisa Stansfield and Gracie Fields' pride and joy. 🙂

Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1362 on: April 21, 2021, 12:15:06 AM »
I am willing to bet my right nutsack:

There will be no punishment handed down to the teams "football needs them too much"

The media wankathon over the teams will carry on as if nothing happened.

All of the CEO's that resigned form that ECA board will be allowed back in. After all they created the champions league closed shop as it is now

That's exactly what will happen.

On top of that, these latest CL reforms - passed this week on the quiet - will be reworked to favour them even more.

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Offline sickbeggar

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1364 on: April 21, 2021, 12:23:25 AM »
Well the good thing is these clubs have lost so much political influence and clout within UEFA. Will take years to repair that damage. UEFA are in it for the money just like the rest of them and for a second there, they saw their money tree being taken away and they didn't like it. Not surprised Woodward buggered off early as no-one was going to trust him anymore

 


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