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Offline Rudy Can't Fail

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1020 on: April 20, 2021, 02:04:01 PM »
Even if this does not go ahead, there needs to be consequences for those who pulled this stunt.

And their inclusion of Spurs, a club who have won SFA in their history, was the ultimate insult to illustrious clubs all over Europe.
Completely agree.
They have exposed themselves for the greedy, self serving ****** they are and have shown the rest of football they don’t give a fuck about them.

According to Sky News, Spurs have the biggest debt, something approaching £900m.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1021 on: April 20, 2021, 02:21:59 PM »
I think to a certain degree this is about making a move to have dominant market in Asia - basketball is big and I think this is a low-moral way of going about it for 'some' football. Sadly I think this will be a trend as everyone's after a potential new audience of > 1.5billion people.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1022 on: April 20, 2021, 02:23:37 PM »
Not at four in the morning, they aren't. It's a midweek league.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1023 on: April 20, 2021, 02:25:18 PM »
I can never understand why Juve attract so many gloryhunters when they're far less successful than the Milan clubs.

Juventus attract insane levels of support in southern Italy for some reason, but surprisingly less of it around Turin

The Stadio Delle Alpi (dump that it was) held 67k and was hardly ever more than half full. When they rebuilt it they reduced the capacity to 42 or so (I think).

If they played their home games in a 67k stadium somewhere like Bari, for example, they'd probably fill it week in, week out.

The same people I suspect who vote for Salvini in Calabria.

How are they less successful? In terms of European Cups and Champions League, yes. But they've won Serie A 36 times compared to 18 a piece for Inter and Milan.

Ronaldo (the Portuguese poncey one) has boosted their popularity no end in Asia, I always imagined Juve or the 'Old Lady' were popular due to FIAT and the Agnelli family ownership.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1024 on: April 20, 2021, 02:28:25 PM »
Viewing figures are interesting... in the UK a top PL match (shown on Sky) will struggle to get 1million viewers... globally it's harder to measure, but estimates of 20million worldwide would be a fair idea.

In season 2 or 3 of the Axis of Evil Exhibition League, what would 11th placed Spurs get vs 12th Arsenal - played in Bejing?


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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1025 on: April 20, 2021, 02:32:02 PM »
What about viewing figures for the current CL or Europa cup games?
Isn’t that going to be a better comparison?


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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1026 on: April 20, 2021, 02:34:19 PM »
Ronaldo (the Portuguese poncey one)
veering off massively. Imagine being a 20-year-old buck-toothed Ronaldo and being told you were on course to be the greatest player ever. And now, barely 25 years later, you're not even the first footballer people most people think of when they hear your name.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1027 on: April 20, 2021, 02:40:31 PM »
The new one is on the same site as the Delle Alpi.

I can never understand why Juve attract so many gloryhunters when they're far less successful than the Milan clubs.

Juventus attract insane levels of support in southern Italy for some reason, but surprisingly less of it around Turin

The Stadio Delle Alpi (dump that it was) held 67k and was hardly ever more than half full. When they rebuilt it they reduced the capacity to 42 or so (I think).

If they played their home games in a 67k stadium somewhere like Bari, for example, they'd probably fill it week in, week out.

I think they just built a brand new stadium didn't they? I think the delle Alpi is still going to rack and ruin.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1028 on: April 20, 2021, 02:41:19 PM »
The Premier League have released a statement...

The Premier League, alongside The FA, met with clubs today to discuss the immediate implications of the Super League proposal.

The 14 clubs at the meeting unanimously and vigorously rejected the plans for the competition. The Premier League is considering all actions available to prevent it from progressing, as well as holding those shareholders involved to account under its rules.

The League will continue to work with key stakeholders including fan groups, government, Uefa, The FA, EFL, PFA and LMA to protect the best interests of the game and call on those clubs involved in the proposed competition to cease their involvement immediately.

The Premier League would like to thank fans and all stakeholders for the support they have shown this week on this significant issue. The reaction proves just how much our open pyramid and football community means to people.


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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1029 on: April 20, 2021, 02:45:49 PM »
What about viewing figures for the current CL or Europa cup games?
Isn’t that going to be a better comparison?

They're woeful, as you'd expect from games played in the wrong timezone. That's why teams like Barcelona have moaned that they should be playing CL games at the weekend for years.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1030 on: April 20, 2021, 02:47:56 PM »
Looks like Boris is going to war on this one, he, of course, will realise that virtually the whole nation is against this move. I really don't get it, if Villas not playing the most i watch is edited editions of other matches, I am hard pressed to bother watching England games.
He must be fucking ecstatic this has happened. Another issue that he can show his ‘passion’ for where a majority opinion is already in place. He has nothing to lose by sticking his fucking snout in this.

Sorry...don’t want to bring politics into something that is already shit.


It absolutely is a place to bring politics into it, and for all that politicians of all parties have helped facilitate the state the game is in today (and the Tories more than most), if Johnson's shameless pandering turns out to be useful here then that would be a fine advantage.

There is a danger that our genuine love and concern for the game could be turned into another populist trope to divert people away from the chumocracy and sleaze which pours off this Tory government in a deluge.  They are past masters - along with numerous authoritarians and autocrats around the world - at the '3D' strategy: distract, divert and divide (in the name of 'populism') to maintain their grubby grip on excessive wealth, power and privileges.

Remember, the credentials of our own master of misdirection was best summarised by a fellow reporter from Johnson's chequered journalistic days: "He breathes. He lies."  Oh, and we shouldn't forget, it's Al/Alex for his chums and 'Boris' for us oiks.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1031 on: April 20, 2021, 02:53:49 PM »
FIFA president being pretty clear.

https://youtu.be/iULk6gtWvoE

I'm happy with that. I don't like him but he's absolutely right in this, they can't leave the 'restrictions' of the current structure for business reasons and then expect to be allowed to stay for sporting ones.

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1032 on: April 20, 2021, 03:05:35 PM »

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1033 on: April 20, 2021, 03:10:46 PM »
Most fans are bored with the current CL with 6 group stage games.

The new CL format agreed yesterday increased group stage games to 9 - I think.

And the proposed ESL is 18  - I think.

A total fucking snooze fest.   I don’t bother anymore with CL games unless it’s the knock out stages and its an exciting looking second leg.   Hardly anyone will bother watching 18 groups games.

So if it goes ahead (which it wont for English clubs as we will not let them stay in the PL) then you will see it crash and burn.   

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Re: Champions League restructuring
« Reply #1034 on: April 20, 2021, 03:20:06 PM »
This made me laugh:

https://twitter.com/Exploding_Heads/status/1384457340057964544

Very good, and the interviewee still talked more sense than the Real Madrid President.

 


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