The galling thing about the goal from the corner was that there were two Burnley players attacking the ball against none of ours. You play all that silky, sexy football and then throw it away for a shittily won corner (Wood outmuscled Mings but he also could have been penalised for shirt-pulling) and a simple unmarked header.I also blame Conor McNamara...he was on about the commentators curse in another recent Villa game he covered. First he bangs on about Villa never giving up a lead this season and Burnley never coming from behind to win (to which Stephen Warnock rightly poured scorn over) and secondly, just as Burnley won that corner (typically, it was their first of the game) he was waxing lyrical about how better we were playing. Just shut the fcuk up in future Conor or even better, stay away from our games. Clive Tyldesley is still weeping somewhere about being dumped by ITV, bring him in out of the cold and see how he does.
The galling thing about the goal from the corner was that there were two Burnley players attacking the ball against none of ours.
Quote from: brontebilly on January 27, 2021, 08:24:42 PMHard to fathom how we didn't win that with something to spare on the balance of play and chances created. We did play excellent football for a lot of that game. But Burnley did pick up in the second half, Luiz was poor throughout really but McGinn disappeared. Cork gave them more of a foothold in midfield. Aside from conceding three goals, biggest moan for me was the age old problem of the timing of Deanos subs. At 2-1 up, those subs should be made. Traore was squandering numerous openings and Barkley was running out of gas. Making those subs at 82mins when 3-2 down is not giving AEG and Trez much of a chance. Throwing Davis on seemed to push Jack to a holding midfielder role. That's ridiculous. Martinez 5 - maybe harsh but I wasn't happy with him for the second or third goals. His centre halves did him no favour for the second one but his footwork was slow for their winner.Cash 5 - a popular player on here but continues to be average defensively for me. Found McNeill a real problem in the second half Konsa 6 - out of position for the second goal and struggled a bit with the physicality of it at timesMings 7 - one of his better games but not happy at all with him for the second goal, for me he half bottled out of diving at that cross to avoid an own goal Targett 7 - beaten in the air for the winner which spoiled a fine performance, another assist. Took wrong option with that shot in first halfLuiz 5 - complete passenger first half, not at the pace of game at all. Loose touches, very rarely tried to get the ball from the back and beaten in many physical exchanges McGinn 6 - decent first half (his ball put Watkins clear didn't it?) but totally anonymous after half time. Needs to up itTraore 6 - squandered so many chances and openings. An enigma really and should have been hooked at least 10 mins earlierBarkley 6 - much better than last two games, ball hogging as always but influential and very unlucky to hit bar. Tired and hooked a little too late Jack 9 - best player in the league, we completely mismanaged his role last 10 mins. Watkins 8 - brilliant for most of the game before tiring late on. Lovely finish, poor effort on the one on one but always a threatSubs AEG looked lively but not given enough time. Trez hardly had a kick and poor old Davis first touch was horridSurely Luiz deserves credit for a fantastic assist for Grealish.
Hard to fathom how we didn't win that with something to spare on the balance of play and chances created. We did play excellent football for a lot of that game. But Burnley did pick up in the second half, Luiz was poor throughout really but McGinn disappeared. Cork gave them more of a foothold in midfield. Aside from conceding three goals, biggest moan for me was the age old problem of the timing of Deanos subs. At 2-1 up, those subs should be made. Traore was squandering numerous openings and Barkley was running out of gas. Making those subs at 82mins when 3-2 down is not giving AEG and Trez much of a chance. Throwing Davis on seemed to push Jack to a holding midfielder role. That's ridiculous. Martinez 5 - maybe harsh but I wasn't happy with him for the second or third goals. His centre halves did him no favour for the second one but his footwork was slow for their winner.Cash 5 - a popular player on here but continues to be average defensively for me. Found McNeill a real problem in the second half Konsa 6 - out of position for the second goal and struggled a bit with the physicality of it at timesMings 7 - one of his better games but not happy at all with him for the second goal, for me he half bottled out of diving at that cross to avoid an own goal Targett 7 - beaten in the air for the winner which spoiled a fine performance, another assist. Took wrong option with that shot in first halfLuiz 5 - complete passenger first half, not at the pace of game at all. Loose touches, very rarely tried to get the ball from the back and beaten in many physical exchanges McGinn 6 - decent first half (his ball put Watkins clear didn't it?) but totally anonymous after half time. Needs to up itTraore 6 - squandered so many chances and openings. An enigma really and should have been hooked at least 10 mins earlierBarkley 6 - much better than last two games, ball hogging as always but influential and very unlucky to hit bar. Tired and hooked a little too late Jack 9 - best player in the league, we completely mismanaged his role last 10 mins. Watkins 8 - brilliant for most of the game before tiring late on. Lovely finish, poor effort on the one on one but always a threatSubs AEG looked lively but not given enough time. Trez hardly had a kick and poor old Davis first touch was horrid
Bogey teams come and go, expect for Newton Heath perhaps.I remember Notts County being a particular pain in the arse, Wimbledon, Oldham, Palace.Perhaps we have a new one in Burnley given the last two games agin them.
Quote from: eamonn on January 28, 2021, 10:40:35 AMThe galling thing about the goal from the corner was that there were two Burnley players attacking the ball against none of ours. I half watched one of their games about a month back (not 100% sure who against, possibly Wolves) and this was a definitive corner kick tactic if theres, somebody close enough to block the keeper coming out, runners blocking off the better headerers so that Mee and Tarkowski can attack the far end of the 6 yard box together. They won headers on almost every corner doing this.
Respect to the way Dean has turned things round (largely) since the re-start last June, but last night was a huge reality check. We are a long away from being a top ten side. what really pisses me off his brushing aside one antediluvian on Saturday and being out thought by another a few days later.
If there’s one team I hate, it’s Burnley. Possibly due to what that bastard Mee did and got away with. Yet again, we needed to be more clinical. They rely on Pope to get themselves out of trouble far too much.
Quote from: mr underhill on January 28, 2021, 09:19:18 AMRespect to the way Dean has turned things round (largely) since the re-start last June, but last night was a huge reality check. We are a long away from being a top ten side. what really pisses me off his brushing aside one antediluvian on Saturday and being out thought by another a few days later.'Huge reality check' is a little strong. We are tenth right now.We are still in transition - this time last year were about to dip into a horrible run of relegation-leading form. A feature of transitions is inconsistency (last Saturday vs last night) and 'bad luck' (refereeing in both Manchester games).It will get better.
That felt like the Stoke 2-2.