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Offline Edvard Remberg

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Re: Burnley vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #45 on: January 27, 2021, 08:23:01 PM »
I will go mainstream and blame Mings for the loss

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Re: Burnley vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #46 on: January 27, 2021, 08:23:05 PM »
11 points out of the last 30. Not great!
11 more from the next 30 and we stay up with 11 games to spare. We'd have settled for that at the start of the season.

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Re: Burnley vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #47 on: January 27, 2021, 08:23:21 PM »
All in all they where better than us, hard to deny that IMO. Stll we are on the up and are often lovley to watch and we are a good mid table team with and xiting future. I m ok with that taking last ten years into consideration. And we did outplay Newcastle last week :).

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Re: Burnley vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #48 on: January 27, 2021, 08:23:22 PM »
Smith has got a lot more right than wrong this season, but he needs to up his game management, and realise that when things aren't working, he needs to change them much sooner than the 85th minute. Also, when a player is out for suspension, and somebody comes in and does well, why not give them a chance to carry on playing well?

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Re: Burnley vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #49 on: January 27, 2021, 08:23:48 PM »
It baffles me how that approach to football can be "successful" in a league like this. It's not like they're even building a firm foundation and seeking to improve with a 2-year plan. They're just a stubborn, shithouse club that employs dinosaurs. Its a shame their tactics yield results, because quite frankly its League 1 crap.

That said, we should be ashamed and embarrassed. We could have and should have put 5 in the bag tonight. There's no excuse for letting a club like Burnley score 3 goals, its hard to believe we have so many clean sheets after tonight's lackluster performance.

I think we should mix it up for Southampton.. I wasn't impressed with Barkley, Traore still needs to discover the importance his role defensively and Mings really needs to have a good look at himself.

This one hurts - and I hope its a wake up call.



Their football is shite. Game after game they rely on Pope to save them. They're fucking shocking.

They've scored 10 goals all year.. pretty pathetic on our part to only take a point off them over 2 matches.

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Re: Burnley vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #50 on: January 27, 2021, 08:24:41 PM »
Gobsmacking that we lost that. We've basically murdered them 0-0 and 2-3.  The game was very similar to West Ham away where we absolutely pasted them but they put away almost every chance they had. 

I'm not sure if it was just one of those nights, or Burnley are becoming a bogey team or if it was our fault, wasting far too many chances and then going to sleep in defence.

Same old faults were apparent though:
-  trying to walk it in
-  blasting it straight at the keeper instead of stroking it into the  corner
-  zonal marking leaves the big CBs ad  CFs "marked" by McGinn, Doug and Barkley - result - carbon copy of the goals conceded to West Ham and Southampton from corners.  No doubt Dyche  noted those very well early in the season and raised it at half time.
- Cash left exposed down the right too often
- Game management, subs came too late, should perhaps have shored it up at 2-1.

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Re: Burnley vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #51 on: January 27, 2021, 08:24:42 PM »
Hard to fathom how we didn't win that with something to spare on the balance of play and chances created. We did play excellent football for a lot of that game. But Burnley did pick up in the second half, Luiz was poor throughout really but McGinn disappeared. Cork gave them more of a foothold in midfield. Aside from conceding three goals, biggest moan for me was the age old problem of the timing of Deanos subs. At 2-1 up, those subs should be made. Traore was squandering numerous openings and Barkley was running out of gas. Making those subs at 82mins when 3-2 down is not giving AEG and Trez much of a chance. Throwing Davis on seemed to push Jack to a holding midfielder role. That's ridiculous.

Martinez 5 - maybe harsh but I wasn't happy with him for the second or third goals. His centre halves did him no favour for the second one but his footwork was slow for their winner.
Cash 5 - a popular player on here but continues to be average defensively for me. Found McNeill a real problem in the second half
Konsa 6 - out of position for the second goal and struggled a bit with the physicality of it at times
Mings 7 - one of his better games but not happy at all with him for the second goal, for me he half bottled out of diving at that cross to avoid an own goal
Targett 7 - beaten in the air for the winner which spoiled a fine performance, another assist. Took wrong option with that shot in first half
Luiz 5 - complete passenger first half, not at the pace of game at all. Loose touches, very rarely tried to get the ball from the back and beaten in many physical exchanges
McGinn 6 - decent first half (his ball put Watkins clear didn't it?) but totally anonymous after half time. Needs to up it
Traore 6 - squandered so many chances and openings. An enigma really and should have been hooked at least 10 mins earlier
Barkley 6 - much better than last two games, ball hogging as always but influential and very unlucky to hit bar. Tired and hooked a little too late
Jack 9 - best player in the league, we completely mismanaged his role last 10 mins.
Watkins 8 - brilliant for most of the game before tiring late on. Lovely finish, poor effort on the one on one but always a threat

Subs AEG looked lively but not given enough time. Trez hardly had a kick and poor old Davis first touch was horrid

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Re: Burnley vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #52 on: January 27, 2021, 08:25:47 PM »
I'm not on the Mings hate-train like most - but a 7? blimey.

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Re: Burnley vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #53 on: January 27, 2021, 08:26:00 PM »


However you know they play for and practise set pieces, you know they cross early without even looking and just hope for a nod down. It's like Wimbledon of old to a degree along with the fouling.


Aye.  It's like the Dons but without the humour or quirkiness.

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Re: Burnley vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #54 on: January 27, 2021, 08:26:15 PM »
We had no attacking luck whatsoever against them over the 2 games . The one bit of good fortune they enjoyed courtesy of their flukey second gave them a new lease of life which saw them win the game. Not too disheartened, some of our first half play was outstanding.Midfield trio as a unit off the pace 2nd half which is concerning though.

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Re: Burnley vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #55 on: January 27, 2021, 08:26:15 PM »
Mings positioned is awful.sometimes, he really gets himself in situations that he shouldn't be, either trying to do too much or switching off.

Hopefully we will learn from that, you know Burnley will fight and scrap, 2nd half they out fought us. Crosses into the box vs Burnley os always awful to ay against.
I was so happy wi what we did in the 1st have but we didn't put them away. Sloppy.

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Re: Burnley vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #56 on: January 27, 2021, 08:26:18 PM »
Quite what happened second half  conceded 3 goals and to goal shy Burnley is really disappointing!
That first half was another level . Outstanding football. Mesmeric play by wonder Jack and the team as a whole and then just staggering to throw away leading positions and come away with nothing.
There was evidence due to the causal manner in both vs newcastle and even at times vs Burnley first half. Delightful football. Utterly dominance but not ruthless to see the game off by 2 or 3 at half time.  And rightfully should have been ahead.
Sometimes we're too good for our own selves
Great to see Grealish score and he would have scored the best goals ever when he took upon amazing run to beat Burnley players doing ball juggling,  dribbling and quite outstanding.
Difficult to see what went on at the end but Burnley assist seemed to aggravate Jack and had to be held back by Elmo.

I think the overall positive is to take a lesson to learn to win a game and finish off teams.
Some of our play first half best up there ever seen by Villa. But also a casualness that needs to substitute to ruthlessness.
Ollie Watkins goal was reminded of Wesley there last season
And on ref he seemed reluctant to give cards but happily give free kicks to us.

Well done first half
Not so much 2nd.

Maybe the players tired and Smith needs to address the rotation issue and trust squad. That said credit to Burnley how they turned up second half. Unlike some Villa players. Chiefly Barkley struggling after 2 months out

Up the Villa.

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Re: Burnley vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #57 on: January 27, 2021, 08:26:29 PM »
hard to be overly critical as we're on track for a miles better season

If we want to aspire to be a top 6 or a top 4 team even then we need to be hard on ourselves.

We can't lose like that if we want to progress. Yes, we were great first half but all the composure on display in the first half completely went once they scored their first.

We have to be mentally tougher than that. To lose that game from 2-1 up with 15 to go is not good enough.

Gotta learn to see games out. Nothing that Burnley did second half was a surprise but we couldn't deal with it.

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Re: Burnley vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #58 on: January 27, 2021, 08:26:44 PM »
Mings was ball watching for the winner and let Wood drift off him towards Targett. That was poor.

That run by Grealish was even better than the one v Leeds. Just astonishing - if only he’d stop hitting the final shot straight at the goalkeeper.

And apart from last year, Turf Moor is an absolute graveyard for Villa.

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Re: Burnley vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread
« Reply #59 on: January 27, 2021, 08:27:02 PM »
Crazy how we lost that in all honesty. They didnt get anywhere near us in that first half. It's a shame because we were an absolute joy to watch in that first 45. Let's hope its just a bump in the road because it's not often we defend as lously as that.

 


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