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Offline eamonn

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Re: Jon Moss
« Reply #90 on: January 21, 2021, 01:25:29 PM »
I never thought I would yearn for the 'halcyon' days of David Elleray.

I never thought it would happen
With me and that Jamie Clapham

Offline Footy-Vill

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Re: Jon Moss
« Reply #91 on: January 21, 2021, 01:38:54 PM »
Don't understand why Boy George was in love with him.

He's a fat Celine Dion
A Karma Chamelion

Someone say Celine Dion ? its all coming back to me or in this case the balls coming back to me

But when you touch the ball like this
And Mings plays it like that
I just have to admit
Cant believe the balls coming back to Rhodri
When Mings touches it like this
And Mings holds it like that
It's so hard to believe but
The balls coming back to Rhodri

Offline Risso

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Re: Jon Moss
« Reply #92 on: January 21, 2021, 04:32:14 PM »
Very good!

Offline pooligan

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Re: Jon Moss
« Reply #93 on: January 21, 2021, 05:53:01 PM »
Oh yes David Elleray  another idiot who among his many gaffs gave a Small Heath a goal that should never have been because he thought he saw Enkelman touch the ball from Melbergs throw in

Offline Footy-Vill

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Re: Jon Moss
« Reply #94 on: January 21, 2021, 06:06:43 PM »
Very good!

My Heart will go on.

Every night in My dreams
I see no goal I feel no goal
I don't understand  why Moss says the play can go on
Far across the distance
Mings and Rhodri no spaces between us?
Moss has allowed play to go on

Near, far,  with no check of VAR
He believes that the play can go on
Once more, in the offside corridor
And VAR in his ear its a laugh
And Dean curses you got it wrong oh Jon oh Jon

Moss gets it wrong most of the time
And  his decisions last a lifetime
And i'll never it let go 'til he's gone
Smith quite rightly told you that you're just an unfit old mule
In my life, your decision will always be wrong

In Mosses ear, theres something I fear
And I know that his decisions will go wrong
He'll stay forever this way
You aren't welcome at Villa Park
And its a farce that he gets to ref on and on


Offline LukeJames

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Re: Jon Moss
« Reply #95 on: January 21, 2021, 06:23:13 PM »
What the fuck have I just read?

Why the fuck did I read it in a Celine Dion voice?

Offline purpletrousers

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Re: Jon Moss
« Reply #96 on: January 21, 2021, 07:23:11 PM »
Happy to contribute to Dean's fine as he is a fucking prick, no argument from me.
There are more important things going on (cf https://twitter.com/purpletrousers/status/1349977200024580097?s=21) but it would be slightly amusing if he got the fine covered by hundreds of thousands of football fans sick of VAR/silly rules ruining the game, each putting no more than £1 in and signing a petition calling for common sense at the same time. It feels like it’s time there was a bit of a response. If anyone fancied organising like.

Online London Villan

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Re: Jon Moss
« Reply #97 on: January 21, 2021, 07:26:44 PM »
Don't the fines go to charity anyway? So it's a win win!

Offline purpletrousers

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Re: Jon Moss
« Reply #98 on: January 21, 2021, 07:42:53 PM »
"Receives the ball" is the wording,  well he didn't receive it,  he tackled Mings

Absolutely. If they are playing ‘letter of the law’ rather than spirit of the game, than surely *receiving* wording is imperative, and is relevant to:

the explanation they are using to justify the wrong decision is bizare. It applies to backpasses that are played and intercepted by the offside player. Rodri tackled back from an offside position which is not allowed. Totally different thing.

 Add in

Much of this is to do with the new rules around linesmen not flagging straight away. Had the flag gone up the minute the header back was made, then there’s no debate, he’s a mile off. It’s a farce.

You can’t argue with Deano’s analysis.

Offline Cliftonville Villlain

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Re: Jon Moss
« Reply #99 on: January 21, 2021, 09:38:11 PM »
It's becoming pretty obvious now that the laws of the game are being changed on the hoof when a top 6 team is involved. Since time began that would be deemed offside. Now its a grey area. Jesus. All season long we've been the victims of dubious or downright wrong VAR decisions and just rank bad refereeing. I was absolutely fuming after that United penalty and last night was just as bad. Deano needs to start screaming from the rooftops about the refereeing and demand they're never in charge of a Villa game again. Of course they won't listen, but it will focus attention on the ridiculous amount of wrong decisions we've been and will continue to be on the wrong end of. It's becoming comical now.

Offline wittonwarrior

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Re: Jon Moss
« Reply #100 on: January 21, 2021, 09:43:31 PM »
"Receives the ball" is the wording,  well he didn't receive it,  he tackled Mings

Absolutely. If they are playing ‘letter of the law’ rather than spirit of the game, than surely *receiving* wording is imperative, and is relevant to:

the explanation they are using to justify the wrong decision is bizare. It applies to backpasses that are played and intercepted by the offside player. Rodri tackled back from an offside position which is not allowed. Totally different thing.

 Add in

Much of this is to do with the new rules around linesmen not flagging straight away. Had the flag gone up the minute the header back was made, then there’s no debate, he’s a mile off. It’s a farce.

You can’t argue with Deano’s analysis.

Oh you can.  You are right in agreeing with his sentiments but we should have been aware of the rules as it stands.

Online paul_e

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Re: Jon Moss
« Reply #101 on: January 21, 2021, 09:57:05 PM »
Which rules? There are 3-4 posts on here pointing out the other offside rules and how they contradict what the refs are all coming out with today.

What would be really useful now would be for someone to explain why, in this case, that rule was applied and not the other one.

As far as I can tell it comes down to a fraction of a second decision on whether Mings was in control of the ball when Rodri tackled him. If you watch it carefully the ball hasn't even got to the floor when Rodri challenges for it so Mings is, in my opinion, still in the process of controlling it and a ref with any degree of understanding about playing the game and who isn't a fat t**t blows up immediately because it's clear that Rodri gained an advantage from being offside.

I'm absolutely certain that an club employed ref (as you proposed elsewhere) who went through the rules with the club would never have even considered bringing up a situation like this as something to be wary of. If this very specific interpretation of the rule was well known we'd have seen goals like this before.

Offline Risso

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Re: Jon Moss
« Reply #102 on: January 21, 2021, 10:07:40 PM »
The rules are bollocks.  You can't say that a "new phase" resets if a defender touches the ball, AND have the rule say that the attacking player becomes offside if he attempts a tackle.

Defender gets ball - not offside
Attacker tackles somebody - offside

How can he tackle somebody who hasn't got the ball?

Offline olaftab

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Re: Jon Moss
« Reply #103 on: January 21, 2021, 10:15:57 PM »
Very good!
Look what you've done now :'(

Offline pooligan

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Re: Jon Moss
« Reply #104 on: January 21, 2021, 10:33:08 PM »
Surprise Surprise Deano has been charged while the idiot who caused the trouble is protected and no action is taken against  I am falling out of love the game i have watched all my life
« Last Edit: January 21, 2021, 10:42:47 PM by pooligan »

 


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