What should we sing if we ever play Odessa and take the ferry across the Caspian Sea which is not a Sea but an inland Lake? It would have to be 'Land or sea OR water, which is what I have always sung anyway.
Late 70's early 80's lower holte ,right side bottom corner.Definately "get into em and fuck em off"
Quote from: Border villan on January 25, 2021, 07:12:27 PMQuote from: LukeJames on January 25, 2021, 06:59:45 PMWhile you're all on the subject, one I could never understand. We all follow the Villa, over land and Sea... And water. Aren't see and water the same thing?No.I agree but assuming we are not including crossing rivers by road or rail bridges, can you give an example of a Villa away game that would involve crossing water that is not sea.
Quote from: LukeJames on January 25, 2021, 06:59:45 PMWhile you're all on the subject, one I could never understand. We all follow the Villa, over land and Sea... And water. Aren't see and water the same thing?No.
While you're all on the subject, one I could never understand. We all follow the Villa, over land and Sea... And water. Aren't see and water the same thing?
Quote from: Brend'Watkins on January 25, 2021, 04:09:04 PMQuote from: Ads on January 25, 2021, 04:01:16 PMIts off.Read that and thought the signing was off!Same here, I just spent five minutes checking Twitter as to why!It's 'up'.
Quote from: Ads on January 25, 2021, 04:01:16 PMIts off.Read that and thought the signing was off!
Its off.
This thread is going too be a superb nostalgic read in 3 years time when he's scored twice and assisted Louie Barry twice as we belt Bayern Munich in the Champions League Final.
Quote from: Dave on January 25, 2021, 08:34:36 PMQuote from: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 25, 2021, 08:24:15 PMQuote from: Dave on January 25, 2021, 08:11:19 PMQuote from: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 25, 2021, 07:20:31 PMQuote from: Border villan on January 25, 2021, 07:12:27 PMQuote from: LukeJames on January 25, 2021, 06:59:45 PMWhile you're all on the subject, one I could never understand. We all follow the Villa, over land and Sea... And water. Aren't see and water the same thing?No.I agree but assuming we are not including crossing rivers by road or rail bridges, can you give an example of a Villa away game that would involve crossing water that is not sea.The bigger question is why would one exclude crossing rivers by road or rail bridge?That is absolutely following the Villa over water.The chant doesn't make reference to how much easier modern transport infrastructure make that following. I would say you would struggle to find a single game home or away that doesn't involve crossing water in that case !Why sing a song which in effect boasts about your undying loyalty because you parked the other side of cuckoo bridge ? Then walked over the fazeley canal ? That canal and bridge was there before villa park was built which puts paid to your modern infrastructure argument !To turn your argument around, the song boasting of undying loyalty also includes the journeying over land.Why is the "over water" part the bit that signifies sacrifice? If the over land bit is taken as an assumption of any regular journey, why can't the the trip over a canal of three also be seen as part of that same bog-standard journey, as following the Villa over land?Anybody with an understanding of the song will appreciate the context and the stress applied to the `on water` part of the melody. The song would start out in dulcet tones with a few participants and build to a rising crescendo with others joining in as it turned into a joyous and boastful shout.We will follow the Villa over land and sea,......AND WATER ! We will follow the Villa onto victory.Without the on water aspect of the song I doubt it would have survived as long as it did. For me the on water element was key to what was being espoused and I find it incredulous to believe anybody at the time thought it related to walking across a canal bridge !
Quote from: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 25, 2021, 08:24:15 PMQuote from: Dave on January 25, 2021, 08:11:19 PMQuote from: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 25, 2021, 07:20:31 PMQuote from: Border villan on January 25, 2021, 07:12:27 PMQuote from: LukeJames on January 25, 2021, 06:59:45 PMWhile you're all on the subject, one I could never understand. We all follow the Villa, over land and Sea... And water. Aren't see and water the same thing?No.I agree but assuming we are not including crossing rivers by road or rail bridges, can you give an example of a Villa away game that would involve crossing water that is not sea.The bigger question is why would one exclude crossing rivers by road or rail bridge?That is absolutely following the Villa over water.The chant doesn't make reference to how much easier modern transport infrastructure make that following. I would say you would struggle to find a single game home or away that doesn't involve crossing water in that case !Why sing a song which in effect boasts about your undying loyalty because you parked the other side of cuckoo bridge ? Then walked over the fazeley canal ? That canal and bridge was there before villa park was built which puts paid to your modern infrastructure argument !To turn your argument around, the song boasting of undying loyalty also includes the journeying over land.Why is the "over water" part the bit that signifies sacrifice? If the over land bit is taken as an assumption of any regular journey, why can't the the trip over a canal of three also be seen as part of that same bog-standard journey, as following the Villa over land?
Quote from: Dave on January 25, 2021, 08:11:19 PMQuote from: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 25, 2021, 07:20:31 PMQuote from: Border villan on January 25, 2021, 07:12:27 PMQuote from: LukeJames on January 25, 2021, 06:59:45 PMWhile you're all on the subject, one I could never understand. We all follow the Villa, over land and Sea... And water. Aren't see and water the same thing?No.I agree but assuming we are not including crossing rivers by road or rail bridges, can you give an example of a Villa away game that would involve crossing water that is not sea.The bigger question is why would one exclude crossing rivers by road or rail bridge?That is absolutely following the Villa over water.The chant doesn't make reference to how much easier modern transport infrastructure make that following. I would say you would struggle to find a single game home or away that doesn't involve crossing water in that case !Why sing a song which in effect boasts about your undying loyalty because you parked the other side of cuckoo bridge ? Then walked over the fazeley canal ? That canal and bridge was there before villa park was built which puts paid to your modern infrastructure argument !
Quote from: Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air on January 25, 2021, 07:20:31 PMQuote from: Border villan on January 25, 2021, 07:12:27 PMQuote from: LukeJames on January 25, 2021, 06:59:45 PMWhile you're all on the subject, one I could never understand. We all follow the Villa, over land and Sea... And water. Aren't see and water the same thing?No.I agree but assuming we are not including crossing rivers by road or rail bridges, can you give an example of a Villa away game that would involve crossing water that is not sea.The bigger question is why would one exclude crossing rivers by road or rail bridge?That is absolutely following the Villa over water.The chant doesn't make reference to how much easier modern transport infrastructure make that following.
Quote from: LukeJames on January 25, 2021, 10:04:55 PMThis thread is going too be a superb nostalgic read in 3 years time when he's scored twice and assisted Louie Barry twice as we belt Bayern Munich in the Champions League Final.Can’t we beat someone else next time?
Quote from: Risso on January 25, 2021, 04:23:13 PMQuote from: Brend'Watkins on January 25, 2021, 04:09:04 PMQuote from: Ads on January 25, 2021, 04:01:16 PMIts off.Read that and thought the signing was off!Same here, I just spent five minutes checking Twitter as to why!It's 'up'.Definitely up and I was always a left sider but near the middle.
Quote from: brian green on January 25, 2021, 09:21:56 PMWhat should we sing if we ever play Odessa and take the ferry across the Caspian Sea which is not a Sea but an inland Lake? It would have to be 'Land or sea OR water, which is what I have always sung anyway.I’d definitely sing something about garden sheds. In Russian.