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Online Dave

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Re: Morgan Sanson
« Reply #195 on: January 25, 2021, 08:34:36 PM »
While you're all on the subject, one I could never understand. We all follow the Villa, over land and Sea... And water. Aren't see and water the same thing?



No.

I agree but assuming we are not including crossing rivers by road or rail bridges, can you give an example of a Villa away game that would involve crossing water that is not sea.

The bigger question is why would one exclude crossing rivers by road or rail bridge?

That is absolutely following the Villa over water.

The chant doesn't make reference to how much easier modern transport infrastructure make that following.

I would say you would struggle to find a single game home or away that doesn't involve crossing water in that case !

Why sing a song which in effect boasts about your undying loyalty because you parked the other side of cuckoo bridge ? Then walked over the fazeley canal ? That canal and bridge was there before villa park was built which puts paid to your modern infrastructure argument !

To turn your argument around, the song boasting of undying loyalty also includes the journeying over land.

Why is the "over water" part the bit that signifies sacrifice? If the over land bit is taken as an assumption of any regular journey, why can't the the trip over a canal of three also be seen as part of that same bog-standard journey, as following the Villa over land?

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Re: Morgan Sanson
« Reply #196 on: January 25, 2021, 08:39:00 PM »
To bring this back on track...it’s Up, right hand side.

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Re: Morgan Sanson
« Reply #197 on: January 25, 2021, 08:43:07 PM »
To bring this back on track...it’s Up, right hand side.
Is the correct answer. ;-)

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Re: Morgan Sanson
« Reply #198 on: January 25, 2021, 08:44:37 PM »
We could get Newport IOW in the cup. You could get a ferry on the way to Portsmouth away, if you wanted to.

The Solent is sea.
 This from The Solent Forum which as far as I know has yet to get a mention on HIGNFY.

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The Solent itself is the strait that separates the Isle of Wight from the mainland of England. It is about 20 miles (32 kilometres) long and varies in width between 21⁄2 and 5 miles (4 and 8 km), although the Hurst Spit which projects 11⁄2 mi (2.4 km) into the Solent narrows the sea crossing between Hurst Castle and Colwell Bay to just over 1 mile (1.6 km).

http://www.solentforum.org/solent/our_coastal_zone/

The Solent was a river! In pre-historic times - The River Solent.

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Re: Morgan Sanson
« Reply #199 on: January 25, 2021, 08:46:14 PM »
I refuse to believe that there isn’t a single ground somewhere in the world that is on an island in the middle of a lake or some such.

Belter of an away game.



(Henningsvaer in Norway, but probably more of a pitch than a stadium)
We would have left Tonev at home if we had a game at this ground.

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Re: Morgan Sanson
« Reply #200 on: January 25, 2021, 08:47:47 PM »
Jesus, Imagine the poor Dolphins.

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Re: Morgan Sanson
« Reply #201 on: January 25, 2021, 08:48:36 PM »
While you're all on the subject, one I could never understand. We all follow the Villa, over land and Sea... And water. Aren't see and water the same thing?



No.

I agree but assuming we are not including crossing rivers by road or rail bridges, can you give an example of a Villa away game that would involve crossing water that is not sea.

The bigger question is why would one exclude crossing rivers by road or rail bridge?

That is absolutely following the Villa over water.

The chant doesn't make reference to how much easier modern transport infrastructure make that following.

I would say you would struggle to find a single game home or away that doesn't involve crossing water in that case !

Why sing a song which in effect boasts about your undying loyalty because you parked the other side of cuckoo bridge ? Then walked over the fazeley canal ? That canal and bridge was there before villa park was built which puts paid to your modern infrastructure argument !

To turn your argument around, the song boasting of undying loyalty also includes the journeying over land.

Why is the "over water" part the bit that signifies sacrifice? If the over land bit is taken as an assumption of any regular journey, why can't the the trip over a canal of three also be seen as part of that same bog-standard journey, as following the Villa over land?

Anybody with an understanding of the song will appreciate the context and the stress applied to the `on water` part of the melody.
The song would start out in dulcet tones with a few participants and build to a rising crescendo with others joining in as it turned into a joyous and boastful shout.
We will follow the Villa over land and sea,......AND WATER ! We will follow the Villa onto victory.
Without the on water aspect of the song I doubt it would have survived as long as it did. For me the on water element was key to what was being espoused and I find it incredulous to believe anybody at the time thought it related to walking across a canal bridge !

« Last Edit: January 25, 2021, 08:51:02 PM by Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air »

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Re: Morgan Sanson
« Reply #202 on: January 25, 2021, 09:06:18 PM »
Up

Left Side* - Swap Shop - Hibs & Celtic

*Beside the base of the floodlight.

You did well there apart from Swap Shop. Fucking hell.

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Re: Morgan Sanson
« Reply #203 on: January 25, 2021, 09:09:11 PM »
Off.

Back of the left side.

Kingstanding.

Tiswas.

Obvs. UTV.

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Re: Morgan Sanson
« Reply #204 on: January 25, 2021, 09:09:52 PM »
While you're all on the subject, one I could never understand. We all follow the Villa, over land and Sea... And water. Aren't see and water the same thing?



No.

I agree but assuming we are not including crossing rivers by road or rail bridges, can you give an example of a Villa away game that would involve crossing water that is not sea.

The bigger question is why would one exclude crossing rivers by road or rail bridge?

That is absolutely following the Villa over water.

The chant doesn't make reference to how much easier modern transport infrastructure make that following.

I would say you would struggle to find a single game home or away that doesn't involve crossing water in that case !

Why sing a song which in effect boasts about your undying loyalty because you parked the other side of cuckoo bridge ? Then walked over the fazeley canal ? That canal and bridge was there before villa park was built which puts paid to your modern infrastructure argument !

To turn your argument around, the song boasting of undying loyalty also includes the journeying over land.

Why is the "over water" part the bit that signifies sacrifice? If the over land bit is taken as an assumption of any regular journey, why can't the the trip over a canal of three also be seen as part of that same bog-standard journey, as following the Villa over land?

Anybody with an understanding of the song will appreciate the context and the stress applied to the `on water` part of the melody.
The song would start out in dulcet tones with a few participants and build to a rising crescendo with others joining in as it turned into a joyous and boastful shout.
We will follow the Villa over land and sea,......AND WATER ! We will follow the Villa onto victory.
Without the on water aspect of the song I doubt it would have survived as long as it did. For me the on water element was key to what was being espoused and I find it incredulous to believe anybody at the time thought it related to walking across a canal bridge !

On water? Here we go again.

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Re: Morgan Sanson
« Reply #205 on: January 25, 2021, 09:20:24 PM »
I feel Sanson is Barkley’s replacement or competition
But is useful whatver he fits in. Looking forward to having the extra option qs has been needed.

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Re: Morgan Sanson
« Reply #206 on: January 25, 2021, 09:21:56 PM »
What should we sing if we ever play Odessa and take the ferry across the Caspian Sea which is not a Sea but an inland Lake?  It would have to be 'Land or sea OR water, which is what I have always sung anyway.

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Re: Morgan Sanson
« Reply #207 on: January 25, 2021, 09:22:38 PM »
He better arrive by barge or he can fuck off.

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Re: Morgan Sanson
« Reply #208 on: January 25, 2021, 09:25:44 PM »
What should we sing if we ever play Odessa and take the ferry across the Caspian Sea which is not a Sea but an inland Lake?  It would have to be 'Land or sea OR water, which is what I have always sung anyway.

We would have had to pass land and sea and water to get there, assuming we started in Britain.

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Re: Morgan Sanson
« Reply #209 on: January 25, 2021, 09:26:24 PM »
He better arrive by barge or he can fuck off.

Barges are too wide to get along the Fazeley canal, it will have to be a narrowboat.

 


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