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Author Topic: Maradona - RIP  (Read 5218 times)

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Re: Maradona - RIP
« Reply #135 on: November 26, 2020, 09:53:39 PM »
His miraculous feet have joined his heavenly hand(s).

What a fantastic player.

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Re: Maradona - RIP
« Reply #136 on: November 26, 2020, 10:04:15 PM »
I mean Maradona obviously. Quite why some can't accept that not everyone thinks he's the bestest ever is bizarre. 

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Re: Maradona - RIP
« Reply #137 on: November 26, 2020, 10:07:33 PM »
I mean Maradona obviously. Quite why some can't accept that not everyone thinks he's the bestest ever is bizarre. 

Absolutely. Especially when the comparison is Messi who has literally been consistently the best player in the world for almost his entire career.

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« Reply #138 on: November 26, 2020, 10:55:03 PM »
I used to rate Pele above Maradona but Maradona playing for 6 or 7 other countries would have meant that side winning the 1986 W.C.
Even bigger effect was for Napoli between 1986-90.They won 2 titles competing against the likes of Juventus and  then particularly Milan.They would have won a third title but in 1988 they threw away a big lead with a few games left.The influence of the Camorra who were facing big losses on Neapolitans betting illegally on Napoli regaining the title seems the logical conclusion.Betting fixes have not been uncommon in Serie A.
Shilton an the Hand of God pisses me off.Shilton never spoke to the ref when McMahon's shot flew past him ,hit the stanchion and came out and no goal was given.A vital loss of points in the 1970 relegation.

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Re: Maradona - RIP
« Reply #139 on: November 26, 2020, 11:08:55 PM »
I mean Maradona obviously. Quite why some can't accept that not everyone thinks he's the bestest ever is bizarre. 

Absolutely. Especially when the comparison is Messi who has literally been consistently the best player in the world for almost his entire career.

Yup, Messi for me as well, Maradona and Ronaldo tie for second.

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Re: Maradona - RIP
« Reply #140 on: November 27, 2020, 03:39:36 AM »
Iím not for Messi or Maradona but it has helped Messiís ďbrandĒ that he has always played for Barcelona in an era where we have been privileged to watch him whenever we want.

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Re: Maradona - RIP
« Reply #141 on: November 27, 2020, 07:23:03 AM »
Great article Mr Woodhall by the way.

I can't understand why people still go on about the handball goal. how many hundreds of incidents have we seen since then for players cheating to get penalties etc, yes I'm looking at you Manure.

Just accept him for what he was, a brilliant and talented footballer.

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Re: Maradona - RIP
« Reply #142 on: November 27, 2020, 09:29:44 AM »
Iím not for Messi or Maradona but it has helped Messiís ďbrandĒ that he has always played for Barcelona in an era where we have been privileged to watch him whenever we want.

Yes the familiarity with Messi definately helps and its completely subjective anyway, one thing I think is overlooked is that when Maradona played the WC was the premier competition and he did indeed, more or less win it single handedly. Now I'd say, for better or worse, the CL is the ultimate prize and Messi and Ronaldo have dominated in that.

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Re: Maradona - RIP
« Reply #143 on: November 27, 2020, 09:51:45 AM »
Yep there's an argument that a World Cup winners medal is the only thing stopping Messi being declared the best ever player.

I'm not sure I agree with that argument but I can understand it.

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Re: Maradona - RIP
« Reply #144 on: November 27, 2020, 09:58:16 AM »
There's no right or wrong answer as it's impossible to compare players over generations, and it's obviously a team game anyway when who you play with has a large bearing on how you do.  It's still Maradona for me though, just ahead of Ronaldo and then Messi.  Other opinions are available though!

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Re: Maradona - RIP
« Reply #145 on: November 27, 2020, 10:12:24 AM »
I agree that it's impossible to compare and often we remember most fondly the players that we grew up with. Maradona was one of those characters like Mohamed Ali who was more than a sportsman, he lit up the game and made it theatre. To score two goals against England in a World Cup after the Malvinas-Falklands conflict, one that shouldn't have been allowed and the other one of the greates goals ever, was poetry whatever you think of him. He even died on the same day that George Best and Fidel Castro passed away. An artist till the end.

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Re: Maradona - RIP
« Reply #146 on: November 27, 2020, 10:46:29 AM »
It's also hard to compare because we only really got to see Maradona on TV properly in the World Cups.  Much easier to see Ronaldo and Messi every match if you want to.

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Re: Maradona - RIP
« Reply #147 on: November 27, 2020, 10:55:25 AM »
Interesting comment from lineker - some of the players who played against Argentina that day, have still not forgiven Maradona for what he did - I can understand that - most of those England players had 1 chance in their careers to be at a World Cup, to have that taken away from them in the way it was must have been gutting

The 2nd goal was beyond world class - fantastic footballer

Wasnít he meant to be in the Barcelona team that we played in super cup game at villa, maybe he was injured??

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Re: Maradona - RIP
« Reply #148 on: November 27, 2020, 11:05:34 AM »
The "hand of god" goal was tough to take as an England fan for obvious reasons in the early 80's. Scotland fans gleefully rubbing salt in the wounds made it that much worse and it's still celebrated in certain quarters North of the border. It
hurt. Having said all that I believe Maradona was the greatest player in my lifetime. Sublime skills coupled with this amazing sense of balance and low centre of gravity made him a unique footballer and he was almost unstoppable on his day. He struggled to control his demons once the cash started rolling in but this was a boy that came from extreme poverty so it's understandable that he got carried away by it all. His legacy is written all over his homeland and he's an inspiration to kids who find themselves facing the same problems that Diego did. He deserves his hero status in his country. The hand of god goal will always be an iconic moment but for me the players who should have been vilified at the time were both English. Hodge for his ludicrous attempt at a back pass and Shilton being beaten to the ball by a comparitive midget hand or no hand.

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Re: Maradona - RIP
« Reply #149 on: November 27, 2020, 11:12:45 AM »
I mean Maradona obviously. Quite why some can't accept that not everyone thinks he's the bestest ever is bizarre. 
I guess for the same reason as you can't accept that he's the bestest ever.

 


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