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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #270 on: November 24, 2020, 12:02:50 PM »
Several days later and there's still not a consensus which says it all. What bothers me though is that I've yet to see a ref get called over to look at the monitor and stick to their original decision. As soon as they get called over, you might as well forget it. That's what bothers me about it.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #271 on: November 24, 2020, 12:42:37 PM »
The grass was too long for our game. The ball was moving around more slowly than normal.
All joking aside. I did comment while watching the game that the pitch didn't look it's usual immaculate best on Saturday. Just an observation.

I was being serious!... Well just a little bit. I'm not blaming it as its the same for both sides but I did think it looked slow.
Oh ok sorry 😁 the pitch didn't look like a great playing surface on Saturday which is not something you would normally say about Villa Park. By the way I'm in no way saying that the pitch had any bearing on the result. It's just an observation.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #272 on: November 24, 2020, 12:44:13 PM »
I would have n problem with refs re-looking at every penalty decision.  I the context of the importance on the outcome of a game, a ref spending less time than Ben Foster does to take a goal kick double checking he is happy with his call would be fine by me.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #273 on: November 24, 2020, 12:45:49 PM »
Several days later and there's still not a consensus which says it all. What bothers me though is that I've yet to see a ref get called over to look at the monitor and stick to their original decision. As soon as they get called over, you might as well forget it. That's what bothers me about it.
That and watching such incidents in slow motion which distorts everything. The ref should look at the monitor in full speed and if he did that I'm convinced he would have stuck with his original decision. If he's got the bollocks.
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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #274 on: November 24, 2020, 01:20:09 PM »
I would have n problem with refs re-looking at every penalty decision.  I the context of the importance on the outcome of a game, a ref spending less time than Ben Foster does to take a goal kick double checking he is happy with his call would be fine by me.

At least then the ref wouldn't have a bias before reviewing them. Being summoned over is like being told 'you made the wrong decision, here's your get out of jail card'.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #275 on: November 24, 2020, 01:25:46 PM »
I would have n problem with refs re-looking at every penalty decision.  I the context of the importance on the outcome of a game, a ref spending less time than Ben Foster does to take a goal kick double checking he is happy with his call would be fine by me.

At least then the ref wouldn't have a bias before reviewing them. Being summoned over is like being told 'you made the wrong decision, here's your get out of jail card'.
That's a very good way of putting it. But when are refs going to have the balls to say "I've looked at it and I think I was right"

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #276 on: November 24, 2020, 03:30:00 PM »
So is the only point to the remote VAR team now to do their ridiculous offside decisions to the nearest electron?  If all they're going to do is refer the ref to the monitor in the ground, why doesn't the ref just check every penalty appeal anyway then?  Got to be quicker than having VAR look at it for a couple of minutes, then just refer it back to the ref.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #277 on: November 24, 2020, 07:00:14 PM »
I think the number of Villa fans on here that did not think it was a pen is a clue as to why it was not given.
Its not as clear cut as the Fernandez foul on Konsa for example that did arrive at a penalty decision (incredbly) and every one of us agreed it was an abomination of a decision..
And this was more of a penalty because the contact was instigated by March.


Wrong! It was given and then reversed. The indecision here only suggests that it was not a "clear and obvious error" which means the penalty should have stood.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #278 on: November 24, 2020, 07:05:59 PM »
I think the number of Villa fans on here that did not think it was a pen is a clue as to why it was not given.
Its not as clear cut as the Fernandez foul on Konsa for example that did arrive at a penalty decision (incredbly) and every one of us agreed it was an abomination of a decision..
And this was more of a penalty because the contact was instigated by March.


Wrong! It was given and then reversed. The indecision here only suggests that it was not a "clear and obvious error" which means the penalty should have stood.
i have said before the clear and obvious error meant it should have stood, not sure where I am wrong.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #279 on: November 24, 2020, 07:31:43 PM »
I think the number of Villa fans on here that did not think it was a pen is a clue as to why it was not given.
Its not as clear cut as the Fernandez foul on Konsa for example that did arrive at a penalty decision (incredbly) and every one of us agreed it was an abomination of a decision..
And this was more of a penalty because the contact was instigated by March.


Wrong! It was given and then reversed. The indecision here only suggests that it was not a "clear and obvious error" which means the penalty should have stood.
i have said before the clear and obvious error meant it should have stood, not sure where I am wrong.

Apologies then, CL. I did not see the earlier post. I read your post as indicating that we can understand why it is reversed, but I can not understand it simply because it does not meet the "clear and obvious" standard in any way. If the penalty was not given in the first place and we were debating if it is a foul at all, then I agree that people can see it differently, but that is not what the issue is in this instance. I am not speaking against you here, CL, just the pathetic state of refereeing these days.

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #280 on: November 24, 2020, 07:59:12 PM »
I think the number of Villa fans on here that did not think it was a pen is a clue as to why it was not given.
Its not as clear cut as the Fernandez foul on Konsa for example that did arrive at a penalty decision (incredbly) and every one of us agreed it was an abomination of a decision..
And this was more of a penalty because the contact was instigated by March.


Wrong! It was given and then reversed. The indecision here only suggests that it was not a "clear and obvious error" which means the penalty should have stood.
i have said before the clear and obvious error meant it should have stood, not sure where I am wrong.

Apologies then, CL. I did not see the earlier post. I read your post as indicating that we can understand why it is reversed, but I can not understand it simply because it does not meet the "clear and obvious" standard in any way. If the penalty was not given in the first place and we were debating if it is a foul at all, then I agree that people can see it differently, but that is not what the issue is in this instance. I am not speaking against you here, CL, just the pathetic state of refereeing these days.
no worries mate

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Re: Aston Villa vs Brighton post-match thread
« Reply #281 on: November 28, 2020, 01:15:27 AM »
I actually thought Trez had his best 'football' first half since he joined the club. Then he had me howling with incredulity when he missed the rebound chance!!

 


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